I also think they should be activated by default.

Olivier Lamy wrote:
Hi,
Agree with Vincent, they must be activated by default (for me it tests
are similar to a junit tests).
And as we have documented in the surefire mojo : "skip ... Its use is
NOT RECOMMENDED .."

By the way I can add some extra parameters during my build.

But I can forget and maybe commit something which failed and deploy a
snapshot which failed too. (you know like me the story about the
failure with plexus-component-api which break with mvn and not with
junit tests).

If we desactivate this, IMHO  running its must be at least activated
in the release profile.

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Olivier

2008/8/7 Vincent Siveton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
2008/8/7 Benjamin Bentmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi Vincent,

Removing this activation check, ITs will never be been called by
default. Is it really the wanted behaviour?
IMHO I think unit testing implies IT testing. Does I missed something?
Well, it appears to be a personal taste: I am just like you in favor of
running tests (whatever kind) by default but the consensus while talking on
IRC (at least as I sensed it, see the logs) was to keep them out of everyday
builds and have them run only on demand by CI.
CI did not develop or make release for us ;) So, I think we need to be
developer oriented and not CI oriented.
So, IMHO ITs are part of the build and should be activated by default
when maven.test.skip is true or at least, with dev user property in
the settings like skipTests.

Other thoughts?

Cheers,

Vincent



Benjamin


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