Hi, thanks for the feedback. I've adjusted the page a bit.For most of them I
agree, but I think we should tell something about environment tooling. Maybe as
some kind of wiki-text while explaining the features of Maven. Another approach
is to ask yourself the following questions and give it a place on the
page:What? (Maven)Why? (stable builds, the environment tooling suuport,
etc.)When? (Now!)Who? (Maven Users, and indeed: Maven Plugin developers and
Maven Core developers are not the first aim and need a separate page)Where?
(?)How? (Download, unpack/install and run) -Robert> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011
14:58:19 -0700
> Subject: RE: Maven Download Procedure
> From: manf...@mosabuam.com
> To: dev@maven.apache.org
>
> Hi!
>
> I am not a web designer either but from a mere content point of view this
> page is already way too busy.
>
> The developer and plugin developer stuff can be removed or reduced to one
> link each. The environment tooling links are not necessary on the front
> page. The section Maven and Maven users should be one and a few of the
> topics can be brought into separate landing pages e.g. one for
> documentation, one for contributing and so on.
>
> It should be much cleaner and basically empty so it is not so overwhelming
> for beginners.
>
> In any case a good logo for Maven would be useful too.
>
> just my 2c
>
> manfred
> http://www.simpligility.com
>
> On Thu, July 21, 2011 1:34 pm, Robert Scholte wrote:
> >
> > First of all: I'm not a graphical designer or the king of HTML and CSS,
> > but this is just a brainwave.It seems like we want a lot of links on the
> > first page. The current page-setup isn't really link-friendly.It contains
> > a lot of text, most of us haven't read it for ages, they just click
> > directly to the required page.My idea is to use a portal view, where
> > portlets can be grouped and each portlet contains it's own specific
> > links.With some coloring I tried to bundle some portlets, like "blue" for
> > the role of the visitor, "green" for the product Maven.The one-click
> > download doesn't seem to be possible. The Apache Site always list the
> > mirrors you can download from, never a direct reference. Anyhow, just
> > shoot at http://people.apache.org/~rfscholte/maven-site/ (half of the
> > links just refer to #)(I hope there's somebody who knows somebody who can
> > make it look great ;) ) -Robert
> > > From: aherit...@gmail.com
> >> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:23:17 +0200
> >> Subject: Re: Maven Download Procedure
> >> To: dev@maven.apache.org
> >>
> >> +1
> >> It was said several times and many people are agree to simplify /
> >> cleanup /
> >> improve our web site ....
> >> If someone is volunteer :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think you'll find in the archives of this list plenty of agreement
> >> and
> >> > thoughts about how to change / simplify. It just needs someone willing
> >> to
> >> > start :)
> >> >
> >> > - Brett
> >> >
> >> > On 09/07/2011, at 8:24 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree with Tim here. Compare the maven[1] and gradle[2] homepages.
> >> The
> >> > gradle page is pretty clean (too clean?) and you know immediately
> >> where to
> >> > download the bundle.The maven site has a huge amount of text, all
> >> links look
> >> > the same so I can imagine that newbies get a bit lost, already on this
> >> page.
> >> > That can't be right.I think it's more than adding a huge download
> >> button.
> >> > IMHO the pages should reflect the role of the visitor (starter, user,
> >> > developer) instead of summing up all the handy stuff, but that's a
> >> real
> >> > challenge. -Robert [1] http://maven.apache.org[2] http://gradle.org
> >> > >> From: vsive...@apache.org
> >> > >> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:11:20 -0400
> >> > >> Subject: Re: Maven Download Procedure
> >> > >> To: dev@maven.apache.org
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Well, 3 clicks vs 1 click to get Maven vs gradle from the main
> >> page,
> >> > >> not a big deal IMHO.
> >> > >> Apache Ant gives it in 2 clicks by catching the right mirror.
> >> > >> Apache Tomcat 2 clicks by catching the right mirror.
> >> > >> Apache Directory gives it in 3 clicks.
> >> > >> and so on
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So, I think we are not so bad.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Vincent
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2011/7/8 Tim O'Brien <tobr...@discursive.com>:
> >> > >>> I had to write this process down for the millionth time today.
> >> Here it
> >> > >>> is: the current procedure for downloading Maven (without using
> >> > figures).
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 1. Go to http://maven.apache.org.
> >> > >>> 2. On the right-hand side of the page, you should see a section
> >> with
> >> > the
> >> > >>> title "Get Maven 3.0.3".
> >> > >>> 3. Click on the first link in this section, the link titled "Maven
> >> > 3.0.3"
> >> > >>> next to the folder icon. This will take you to a list of Maven
> >> > >>> distributions.
> >> > >>> 4. Click on one of the archive links (apache-maven-3.0.3-bin.tgz
> >> or
> >> > >>> apache-maven-3.0.3-bin.zip) in the "Mirrors" column of this table.
> >> > >>> 5. You should then see the "Apache Download Mirrors" page.
> >> > >>> 6. Click on one of the Mirror URLs and download Apache Maven.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Can we figure out a way to make it this easy?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 1. Go to http://maven.apache.org
> >> > >>> 2. Click on one of the Download buttons to download Maven.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Is /dyn/closer.cgi a Foundation requirement? Is there any
> >> project
> >> > that
> >> > >>> uses an alternative? I see closer.cgi used on Tapestry and
> >> CouchDB.
> >> > >>> Apache Directory looks like it uses an intuitive approach (without
> >> > >>> breaking user experience):
> >> > >>>
> >> > http://directory.apache.org/apacheds/2.0/download/download-windows.html
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> If you are curious as to why I'm interested in this now. It is
> >> > because I'm
> >> > >>> starting to pay much closer attention to Gradle, and Gradle gets
> >> this
> >> > right.
> >> > >>> The process to download Gradle is:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 1. Go to http://gradle.org
> >> > >>> 2. Click on the download link
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Brett Porter
> >> > br...@apache.org
> >> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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