I'm +1 for keep em. 

Reason is that this allows quicker digging for some history info. I'm e.g. not 
sure if moves and stuff gets fully resolved with git-svn. Structure changes are 
another candidate of loosing history in git-svn (that would hit the maven-3 
module).

LieGrue,
strub




----- Original Message -----
> From: Kristian Rosenvold <kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com>
> To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Plan for git migration
> 
> Are you thinking about the svn references etched into each commit ?
> 
> The current git-svn repos all have this information appended at the
> end of each commit:
> git-svn-id: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/surefire/trunk@1374642
> 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
> 
> Personally I think we should keep them, since they contain the
> historical reference to the SVN commit number. And technically we have
> a lot
> of jiras referencing "r990909" so removing them is not a good idea wrt
> traceability of changes.
> 
> I know some projects (spring-framework) removed them and others kept
> them. But they have value for us; at least the revision number. We
> could consider rewriting it to just "r900900" although personally I
> think it's just uneccesary work.
> 
> Kristian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/9/12 Nord, James <jn...@nds.com>:
>>  The existing ones will likely have a lot of svn metadata which would tnhen 
> be broken / wrong and then could cause issues/confusion in the future
>> 
>>  I have migrated svn repos using the scrips at 
> https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git which tidies up this extra info and does 
> some extra housekeeping.
>> 
>>  Should you wish to split the svn structure then this allows you to do that.
>> 
>>  YMMV - but also something that you may not have been aware of.
>> 
>>  /James
>> 
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Olivier Lamy [mailto:ol...@apache.org]
>>>  Sent: 12 September 2012 13:26
>>>  To: Maven Developers List
>>>  Subject: Re: Plan for git migration
>>> 
>>>  2012/9/12 Kristian Rosenvold <kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com>:
>>>  > Just to clarify additionally: There are existing read-only clones 
> of a
>>>  > lot of our projects (i'm sure infra can make the rest if they 
> have
>>>  > value)
>>>  >
>>>  > Some of these are excellent and  of high quality (surefire, m3 + 
> it's
>>>  > are the ones I know of) while at least maven-plugins is useless 
> (due
>>>  > to a strange interpretation of tags - try checking out a tag in 
> the
>>>  > current maven-plugins git clone !!!). So we need to collect the
>>>  > assessments of which repos are "migration ready" and 
> which are not.
>>>  > Any community input on this would be great! (If you've used 
> the clone
>>>  > and find that tags/branches etc work according to expectations 
> we're
>>>  > cool)
>>>  >
>>>  > For those that are migration ready the process is is something 
> like this:
>>>  >
>>>  > 1. Have infra make the existing read-only mirror the official 
> master.
>>>  > 2. Change scm url in pom
>>>  > 3. Update github mirroring url (file issue with github)
>>>  that's something we maintain @asf infra.
>>>  I recommend you lurking on infra@ mailing list (if you don't 
> already) as some
>>>  discussions will start here. (see
>>>  http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-mail.html)
>>> 
>>>  > 4. Celebrate
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > For those that for /some/ reason are not ready, we need to resolve
>>>  > what needs to be done.
>>>  >
>>>  > Kristian
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > 2012/9/12 Baptiste MATHUS <m...@batmat.net>:
>>>  >> Hi,
>>>  >>
>>>  >> +1.
>>>  >> Though I'm volunteering to help, as I'm not Maven 
> committer, I don't
>>>  >> know if I'm really allowed to help.
>>>  >> I could help on some projects if needed (I can see maybe 
> enforcer &
>>>  >> release for example).
>>>  >>
>>>  >> By the way, I'm not sure how this is supposed to work. 
> After reading
>>>  >> Kristian comment, I discovered there's actually already 
> many (if not
>>>  >> all) Maven projects that seem migrated (?).
>>>  >> http://git.apache.org/ Is this something that was done by 
> someone
>>>  >> during the night? :-).
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Or maybe that repos are not correct in some way 
> (Kristian's comment
>>>  >> say some are already usable as-is)?
>>>  >>
>>>  >> What makes a repo correct or not to be used as-is?
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Looking at the repo structure from the HTTP interface, I'm 
> under the
>>>  >> impression this is a git repo created by git svn (or 
> svn2git?), .
>>>  >> My naive first guess understanding is that there already may 
> be a
>>>  >> batch of "maven git scripts" running on the 
> infrastructure that would
>>>  >> git-svn the main repo, then filter-branch this repo for a 
> bunch of
>>>  >> directories (release, enforcer, etc.).
>>>  >>
>>>  >> If this is so, not totally sure what would be left?
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Thanks.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> 2012/9/12 Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>> Who is going to open the initial negotiation with INFRA?
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Olivier Lamy 
> <ol...@apache.org>
>>>  wrote:
>>>  >>> > Hi Folks,
>>>  >>> > So the vote passed, now it's time for volunteers 
> to use their
>>>  >>> > fingers
>>>  >>> :-).
>>>  >>> > I have started a page [1] for ETA of migration (note 
> the Volunteer
>>>  >>> > column :-) ) and for discussion on some stuff 
> (plugins shared)
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> > Thanks
>>>  >>> > --
>>>  >>> > Olivier Lamy
>>>  >>> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com
>>>  >>> > http://twitter.com/olamy | 
> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy [1]
>>>  >>> > 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Git+Migration
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> --
>>>  >>> Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net Sauvez 
> un arbre, Mangez
>>>  >>> un castor !
>>>  >>> nbsp;!
>>>  >>>  
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Git+Migration>
>>>  >>>
>>>  >
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