ceki, really, this is perfect example why no container uses commons-logging 
anymore.
Do you like to repeat these errors?


I reiterate: there is a workaround by isolating this in ClassWorlds. It is not 
yet there, but ff we like to use slf4j then we will need to implement that.


LieGrue,
strub



----- Original Message -----
> From: ceki <[email protected]>
> To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: SLF4J integration
> 
> On 11.10.2012 11:18, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>  Oh I missed one more constellation
>> 
>>  a plugin could have slf4j-1.5.x + a logging backend we do not know of.
>> 
>>  I hope such things dont often exist, but in theory it could happen.
>> 
>>  For all of those cases we need isolation.
> 
> A few months before creating the SLF4J project, I had a lengthy
> conversation on the commons-dev mailing list about logging scenarios.
> Richard Sitze (from IBM) offered a number of complex scenarios, and
> that's when the penny finally dropped for me [1]. It is a waste of time
> catering for all imaginable logging scenarios. The space of possible
> logging scenarios is truly vast. However, only a very limited number of
> these scenarios occur in practice. It makes more sense to concentrate
> on the common scenarios to ensure that they are well supported.
> 
> More concretely, I propose that we find one or two examples of plugins 
> declaring an slf4j dependency and test these plugins with the upcoming 
> version of maven (the one using slf4j).
> 
> [1] http://marc.info/?t=110780972600001&r=1&w=2
> 
> -- 
> Ceki
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