FUD FUD FUD

$ git clone git://github.com/qos-ch/slf4j.git
$ cd slf4j/
$ git checkout v1.5.11
$ mvn -version
Apache Maven (Logback) 3.1-SNAPSHOT
(7f9e280522379fc0f3ac09f4d81e8188cdb54192; 2012-12-11 22:54:30+0000)
Maven home: /Users/stephenc/apache/mvn-logback
Java version: 1.6.0_37, vendor: Apple Inc.
Java home: /System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home
Default locale: en_US, platform encoding: MacRoman
OS name: "mac os x", version: "10.8.2", arch: "x86_64", family: "mac"
$ mvn clean verify
[INFO] Scanning for projects...
[WARNING]
[WARNING] Some problems were encountered while building the effective model
for org.slf4j:slf4j-api:jar:1.5.11
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-javadoc-plugin is missing. @
org.slf4j:slf4j-parent:1.5.11, /Users/stephenc/github/slf4j/pom.xml, line
138, column 15
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin is missing. @
org.slf4j:slf4j-parent:1.5.11, /Users/stephenc/github/slf4j/pom.xml, line
102, column 12
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin is missing. @ line 27,
column 15
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for
org.codehaus.mojo:build-helper-maven-plugin is missing. @
org.slf4j:slf4j-parent:1.5.11, /Users/stephenc/github/slf4j/pom.xml, line
181, column 15
...
[INFO] <<< maven-source-plugin:2.2.1:jar (default) @ slf4j-migrator <<<
[INFO]
[INFO] --- maven-source-plugin:2.2.1:jar (default) @ slf4j-migrator ---
[INFO] Building jar:
/Users/stephenc/github/slf4j/slf4j-migrator/target/slf4j-migrator-1.5.11-sources.jar
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Reactor Summary:
[INFO]
[INFO] SLF4J ............................................. SUCCESS [1.144s]
[INFO] SLF4J API Module .................................. SUCCESS [7.549s]
[INFO] SLF4J Simple Binding .............................. SUCCESS [0.842s]
[INFO] SLF4J NOP Binding ................................. SUCCESS [0.730s]
[INFO] SLF4J JDK14 Binding ............................... SUCCESS [0.888s]
[INFO] SLF4J LOG4J-12 Binding ............................ SUCCESS [0.938s]
[INFO] SLF4J JCL Binding ................................. SUCCESS [0.915s]
[INFO] SLF4J Extensions Module ........................... SUCCESS [1.796s]
[INFO] JCL 1.1.1 implemented over SLF4J .................. SUCCESS [1.027s]
[INFO] DEPRECATED - JCL 1.0.4 implemented over SLF4J ..... SUCCESS [0.014s]
[INFO] Log4j Implemented Over SLF4J ...................... SUCCESS [0.476s]
[INFO] JUL to SLF4J bridge ............................... SUCCESS [0.845s]
[INFO] SLF4J Integration tests ........................... SUCCESS [2.905s]
[INFO] SLF4J Site ........................................ SUCCESS [0.360s]
[INFO] SLF4J Migrator .................................... SUCCESS [1.050s]
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time: 21.810s
[INFO] Finished at: Tue Dec 11 22:56:29 GMT 2012
[INFO] Final Memory: 19M/81M
[INFO]
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have to ask you Mark, what exactly are you on. I'm currently on
Diclofenac 50mg three times per day but I think that I have shown that you
can build slf4j 1.5 with a logback impl. I will check out log4j2 presently


On 11 December 2012 22:41, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Oh dear me Mark. Please for the love of everything Maven please reconsider
> what you just posted.
>
> Are you really sure that one cannot build slf4j-1.5 with the proposed
> 3.1.0 versions?
>
> Please try it and if you have found an issue post the results for all to
> see.
>
> I personally would be "shocked and stunned" if slf4j-1.5 fails to build
>
>
> On 11 December 2012 22:29, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>> You have to distinguish between plugin dependencies and project
>> dependencies.
>>
>> For plugin dependencies this can get solved with a new switch in the
>> maven-plugin-plugin.
>> But for user projects this is more complicated. E.g you yourself would
>> not even be able to compile a bugfix version of slf4j-1.5 anymore with this
>> new version of maven!
>>
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: ceki <c...@qos.ch>
>> > To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org>
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:13 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Logback in Maven Core
>> >
>> > On 11.12.2012 21:28, Mark Struberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Folks, don't you see it? we cannot use logback as this is a
>> >>  LocationAwareLogger and would break all projects which use slf4j < 1.6
>> >>  and older.  Please go back to the original mail from 4 month where
>> >>  Ceki himself explained it!
>> >
>> > Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > You are assuming that a plugin somehow sees it's own version of
>> > slf4j-api on the class path but sees logback (the version that ships**
>> > with Maven) instead of it's preferred logging framework. Isn't that an
>> > overly pessimistic scenario which could not occur in practice?
>> >
>> > **subject to approval
>> >
>> >>  LieGrue,
>> >>  strub
>> >
>> > -- Ceki
>> > 65% of statistics are made up on the spot
>> >
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