Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" <chrisgw...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > Hey All. > > Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. > > Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny > and new,
Please. Can we stop using that kind of father-ish formulation? That's not the first time. It makes it sound like "meeh, it happened again. Those /developers/ kids not getting what business is about just did it again...". > I do find that the current 1.5 based Maven is more than sufficient > for our needs. > > I lot of responses about the upgrade are normally around the "just upgrade > the java" (assuming that I am running under tomcat of similar [if only it > was so simple as that!]). > > I am running Maven inside of Jenkins inside of WebSphere on AIX. I am > currently hosting Jenkins under WAS 6.1 on AIX 5.3. Whilst AIX 5.3 is > nearing (or may have reached it's EOS), WAS 6.1's EOS dates have *just been > extended* by a year! > > Additionally, although the Sun/Oracle Java 1.5 may have been EOS'd quite a > while ago, the IBM Java 1.5/5 is most definately not EOS. Please see: > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/lifecycle/index.html. > > Running on AIX, we have one choice in JDK: IBM. > > The IBM 1.5/5 EOS is Sept 2015! > > The reality is that we have lots of WebSphere servers running in large data > centres. So simply stating "just upgrade java" (assuming that it is running > under Tomcat or similar) is simply not an option for us. Twice in a row. What's the issue with products that eases your life when it comes to upgrading things? > > Whilst I do realise that very (1.5% by your [Jenkins] figures {I suspect > that maven figures are similar]) few of us still run on 1.5, some of us > will simply not be able to upgrade to a newer version of WAS/JDK as a > simple task. It's not as easy as clicking your fingers. I'm not sure I perfectly see your point. We also use aix and jenkins and Maven, and it's possible as anywhere else to install many JDK versions on an IBM/aix server. You're then not forced to use the same JDK version for your builds and for running your jenkins server. > > I also do wonder how many installations are in said data centres and are > unable to report their presence. So I do believe that the 1.5% figure would > be low, but certainly within an order of magnitude. I'm thinking that'd certainly be averaged with versions bigger than JDK5 also not reporting. > > So, please do not cut us off from future updates. > > Thanks, > > -Chris > > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Manfred Moser <manf...@mosabuam.com> wrote: > > > Totally agree... if people really need to build for older Java runtimes > > they still can.. but if Oracle thinks they dont want to support JDK < 1.7 > > without getting paid why would the Maven project do it ;-) > > > > For now 1.6 seems just fine and I would even say a jump to 1.7 in the next > > year or three (;-)) would be reasonable.. > > > > manfred > > > > > +1, bump to JDK6 minimum for Maven. > > > > > > > > > 2013/2/6 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> I think we should at least have a minor version bump on core to > > >> co-incide... Though I think calling it maven 4.0 might be better (that > > >> way > > >> we catch up with the model version ;-) > > >> > > >> On Wednesday, 6 February 2013, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi, > > >> > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). > > >> > > > >> > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. > > >> > > > >> > Can we say we are safe to go to 1.6 as minimum required ? > > >> > > > >> > NOTE: That will probably need a vote. So depending on how the thread > > >> > move, I will start a vote (or not). > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > -- > > >> > Olivier Lamy > > >> > Talend: http://coders.talend.com > > >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > >> > > > >> > [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > >> <javascript:;> > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > > >> dev-h...@maven.apache.org<javascript:;> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net > > >> Sauvez un arbre, > > >> Mangez un castor ! nbsp;! > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > >
