On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:00, Baptiste MATHUS <m...@batmat.net> wrote: > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" <chrisgw...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> Hey All. >> >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. >> >> Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny >> and new, > > Please. Can we stop using that kind of father-ish formulation? That's not > the first time. > It makes it sound like "meeh, it happened again. Those /developers/ kids > not getting what business is about just did it again...".
+1 G > >> I do find that the current 1.5 based Maven is more than sufficient >> for our needs. >> >> I lot of responses about the upgrade are normally around the "just upgrade >> the java" (assuming that I am running under tomcat of similar [if only it >> was so simple as that!]). >> >> I am running Maven inside of Jenkins inside of WebSphere on AIX. I am >> currently hosting Jenkins under WAS 6.1 on AIX 5.3. Whilst AIX 5.3 is >> nearing (or may have reached it's EOS), WAS 6.1's EOS dates have *just > been >> extended* by a year! >> >> Additionally, although the Sun/Oracle Java 1.5 may have been EOS'd quite a >> while ago, the IBM Java 1.5/5 is most definately not EOS. Please see: >> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/lifecycle/index.html. >> >> Running on AIX, we have one choice in JDK: IBM. >> >> The IBM 1.5/5 EOS is Sept 2015! >> >> The reality is that we have lots of WebSphere servers running in large > data >> centres. So simply stating "just upgrade java" (assuming that it is > running >> under Tomcat or similar) is simply not an option for us. > > Twice in a row. What's the issue with products that eases your life when it > comes to upgrading things? > >> >> Whilst I do realise that very (1.5% by your [Jenkins] figures {I suspect >> that maven figures are similar]) few of us still run on 1.5, some of us >> will simply not be able to upgrade to a newer version of WAS/JDK as a >> simple task. It's not as easy as clicking your fingers. > > I'm not sure I perfectly see your point. We also use aix and jenkins and > Maven, and it's possible as anywhere else to install many JDK versions on > an IBM/aix server. You're then not forced to use the same JDK version for > your builds and for running your jenkins server. > >> >> I also do wonder how many installations are in said data centres and are >> unable to report their presence. So I do believe that the 1.5% figure > would >> be low, but certainly within an order of magnitude. > > I'm thinking that'd certainly be averaged with versions bigger than JDK5 > also not reporting. > >> >> So, please do not cut us off from future updates. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Chris >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Manfred Moser <manf...@mosabuam.com> > wrote: >> >>> Totally agree... if people really need to build for older Java runtimes >>> they still can.. but if Oracle thinks they dont want to support JDK < > 1.7 >>> without getting paid why would the Maven project do it ;-) >>> >>> For now 1.6 seems just fine and I would even say a jump to 1.7 in the > next >>> year or three (;-)) would be reasonable.. >>> >>> manfred >>> >>>> +1, bump to JDK6 minimum for Maven. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/2/6 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> I think we should at least have a minor version bump on core to >>>>> co-incide... Though I think calling it maven 4.0 might be better > (that >>>>> way >>>>> we catch up with the model version ;-) >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 6 February 2013, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that > (again). >>>>>> >>>>>> Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can we say we are safe to go to 1.6 as minimum required ? >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTE: That will probably need a vote. So depending on how the > thread >>>>>> move, I will start a vote (or not). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>> Talend: http://coders.talend.com >>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>> dev-h...@maven.apache.org<javascript:;> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net >>>>> Sauvez un arbre, >>>>> Mangez un castor ! nbsp;! >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
