On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I see it, you are using the version number to communicate with the > tiny number of people who have made plugins that depend on Aether. > Any JSR330 discrepancies, SLF4J being used for logging and the Aether changes. 4.0.0 says "we did our best to make everything work, but you may have issues." > I would rather see us use the version number to communicate with the > vast number of people who use Maven. > How do you see this as not communicating with everyone. JSR330, SLF4J, and Eclipse Aether are not insignificant. > So, I'd switch to Eclipse Aether, including the need to fork a few > plugins, as 3.2, and use the number 4.0.0 for a version that has real > user-visible impact and value. > I see JSR330, SLF4J and Eclipse Aether as valuable. > If you presented a long list of wonderful user-visible improvements > that would result from the adoption of the new Aether, I'd be happier > with your proposal. > I have no long use of user-visible improvements because I'm the only one working on the core. There's only so much I'm willing to do and I won't develop any features until I know they will be used. > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote: >> >> On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Mark Derricutt <m...@talios.com> wrote: >> >>> A quick answer whilst I let my thoughts dwell on the full long post.. >>> >>> If we're jumping to a major release here, is this a viable time to also >>> update the schema and address of the things we've long been wanting there? >>> ( mixins of some form ) - or is this out of scope ( of this discussion at >>> least ). >>> >> >> To me it's out of scope. I want to get the API changes out there and signal >> the potential of major API breakages. Features can be rolled out whenever. >> To me the change in versions is to signal API breakage, not feature addition. >> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> No one seems to object to doing a release with the SLF4J support without >>>> the isolation so I wanted to discuss what happens when we integrate >>>> Eclipse Aether and suggest an alternate release path. >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder & CTO, Sonatype >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> the course of true love never did run smooth ... >> >> -- Shakespeare >> >> >> >> >> > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote: >> >> On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Mark Derricutt <m...@talios.com> wrote: >> >>> A quick answer whilst I let my thoughts dwell on the full long post.. >>> >>> If we're jumping to a major release here, is this a viable time to also >>> update the schema and address of the things we've long been wanting there? >>> ( mixins of some form ) - or is this out of scope ( of this discussion at >>> least ). >>> >> >> To me it's out of scope. I want to get the API changes out there and signal >> the potential of major API breakages. Features can be rolled out whenever. >> To me the change in versions is to signal API breakage, not feature addition. >> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> No one seems to object to doing a release with the SLF4J support without >>>> the isolation so I wanted to discuss what happens when we integrate >>>> Eclipse Aether and suggest an alternate release path. >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder & CTO, Sonatype >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> the course of true love never did run smooth ... >> >> -- Shakespeare >> >> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder & CTO, Sonatype Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- To do two things at once is to do neither. -- Publilius Syrus, Roman slave, first century B.C.
