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On 24 January 2014 21:04, Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]> wrote: > I need first to upload those files then and wait 24 hours for the dist > server sync. But yes, will do that first. > Den 24/01/2014 21.02 skrev "Noah Slater" <[email protected]>: > >> Aha. Could you add the MD5 and SHA1 links? >> >> On 24 January 2014 20:57, Kasper Sørensen >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I am simply looking for confirmation that the download link (and release >> > information in general) of the staged site is OK. If so it would be great >> > to make out 4.0.0 visible to everyone on the site and start telling about >> > it on social media etc. :-) >> > Den 24/01/2014 20.54 skrev "Noah Slater" <[email protected]>: >> > >> >> What do you mean about pushing to the staged site? Would you push to >> >> the actual site after? Any reason you can't just put these in the dist >> >> directory and update the live site immediately? >> >> >> >> On 24 January 2014 16:50, Kasper Sørensen >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > OK that's what I did. And the deps are compatible, we did a lot of >> checks >> >> > on that already (when we e.g. removed the access module because it >> didn't >> >> > have compatible deps). >> >> > >> >> > So then I think we have what we need? >> >> > Is it then ok If I publish the staged site? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2014/1/24 Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> >> > >> >> >> A zip file could be provided as a convenience binary. If the deps are >> >> >> compatible from a license perspective, you could include them too. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 January 2014 22:58, Kasper Sørensen >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Btw. a simple uber jar would not be sufficient since it would not >> >> contain >> >> >> > dependencies. It would maybe mean less JAR entries on your >> classpath >> >> but >> >> >> > will still not be functional without a minimum set of slf4j and >> maybe >> >> a >> >> >> few >> >> >> > other common libraries. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 2014/1/23 Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> So now I am a little bit confused... Can the zip file I created be >> >> used >> >> >> as >> >> >> >> a convenience downloadable binary item? I think it makes sense in >> >> this >> >> >> way? >> >> >> >> And it is quite consistent with e.g. how Apache Hadoop is being >> >> >> >> distributed.... Am I not right? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014/1/23 Henry Saputra <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Yeah you are right there. Technically all the jar we add to the >> >> >> >>> staging repo for VOTE should not even considered for voting. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> As you have mentioned, ASF only vote on source files, so that is >> >> why I >> >> >> >>> think we could include the uber jar in the staging as part of >> >> proposed >> >> >> >>> release artifacts as convenience for testing and verify validity >> of >> >> >> >>> the package via hash check and sig). >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> - Henry >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Noah Slater < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> > The uber jar includes third-party works and is a binary file, >> >> isn't >> >> >> >>> > it? We only ever vote on source files. >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > My understanding of what this uber jar is tells me that it can >> be >> >> >> >>> > prepared by anyone, at any time, and made available to our >> >> community, >> >> >> >>> > as long as we don't call it a "release". And make it clear it >> is >> >> for >> >> >> >>> > convenience only, and not an official product of the PMC. >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > On 23 January 2014 19:57, Henry Saputra < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> Yes, but I think we would like to include the uber jar as >> part of >> >> >> >>> >> release artifact next time. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> For this release, we do not have to put the uber jar since it >> was >> >> >> not >> >> >> >>> >> included in the VOTE thread. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> I would recommend put the "deps" libraries somewhere like in >> >> >> >>> >> people.apache.org and update the release note to indicate >> this. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Any other thoughts? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> - Henry >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Noah Slater < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> If we're doing this, it's important to mark out the different >> >> >> >>> >>> locations in our download directory. One for the source >> >> *release* >> >> >> and >> >> >> >>> >>> the other for the convenience packages that project >> committers >> >> >> >>> >>> provide. We need to be careful about the wording here on the >> >> >> website >> >> >> >>> >>> too. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> On 23 January 2014 17:42, Henry Saputra < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>> Ankit, could you help make sure ALL the artifacts used in >> the >> >> VOTE >> >> >> >>> are >> >> >> >>> >>>> released to the dist directory? Thanks! >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Kasper, we could build "uber jar" to include all the >> >> dependencies >> >> >> in >> >> >> >>> >>>> one jar. Using something like Maven shade plugin [1] should >> do >> >> the >> >> >> >>> >>>> trick. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> - Henry >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/ >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Kasper Sørensen >> >> >> >>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Not sure why the md5 and sha1 files are missing. Maybe >> Ankit >> >> >> simply >> >> >> >>> forgot >> >> >> >>> >>>>> to copy them over? >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Regarding the dep jars ... What I am thinking about is that >> >> say I >> >> >> >>> have my >> >> >> >>> >>>>> own build setup (e.g. with Ant or so) and I want to go >> >> download >> >> >> the >> >> >> >>> Spring >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Framework, Hibernate or any other substantial Java library >> >> with >> >> >> >>> >>>>> dependencies, then I usually find a bundle which contains >> >> >> >>> dependencies. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> That's very helpful if I just want to dump them into the >> >> >> classpath >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >>> >>>>> start compiling etc. How would a MetaModel user do that if >> we >> >> >> don't >> >> >> >>> provide >> >> >> >>> >>>>> these jars somehow? >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> Of course the Maven users are blessed with the dependency >> >> >> >>> management, and >> >> >> >>> >>>>> that's also why I put the <dependency> snippet directly on >> the >> >> >> >>> website >> >> >> >>> >>>>> draft as well. >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> 2014/1/23 Henry Saputra <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We should not add those deps jars to the dist folder. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We could write doc in the wiki on how to integrate with >> >> >> MetaModel >> >> >> >>> from >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> your project. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Like if you use Maven the add MetaModel dependency in the >> >> >> pom.xml >> >> >> >>> that >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> should pull transitive dependencies on when building your >> >> Maven >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> project. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> - Henry >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Sørensen >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > I have a new draft available then: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/index.html >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > Go to the section called "Download". >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > One specific doubt I have: Our build did not produce a >> >> >> finished >> >> >> >>> zip file >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > with all the JAR files in it (including the dependencies >> >> like >> >> >> >>> slf4j etc. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > which are only mentioned as maven <dependency> >> elements). >> >> So I >> >> >> >>> created >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> one >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > manually and put it here: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/metamodel/metamodel-4.0.0-incubating/packaged/ >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > Along with my own armor/.asc file. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > Is that the right way to do it? Is the contents of this >> >> file >> >> >> >>> correct (in >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > the sense that it contains third party JARs in the lib >> >> >> folder)? >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > 2014/1/22 Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> See this: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> https://www.apache.org/dev/release-download-pages.html >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> On 22 January 2014 14:23, Kasper Sørensen >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > Thanks for the CouchDB example Noah. Will try to do >> >> >> something >> >> >> >>> similar. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > Now another "little thing" ... How do we get the >> >> >> downloadable >> >> >> >>> zip >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> files >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > etc. available on the download server of Apache? I >> see >> >> that >> >> >> >>> all large >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> files >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > go through a link like this: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?path=/couchdb/binary/win/1.5.0/setup-couchdb-1.5.0_R16B02.exe >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > I imagine that's to support download mirrors etc... >> Is >> >> that >> >> >> >>> kinda >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> stuff >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > already taken care of by Ankit's release procedure, >> or >> >> do >> >> >> we >> >> >> >>> need to >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> do >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > something more for the distribution part of the >> release? >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > 2014/1/22 Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> Congrats! >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> On 21 January 2014 13:05, Ankit Kumar < >> >> >> >>> [email protected]> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > HI All, >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > The vote for Apache Metamodel 4.0.0-incubating is >> >> >> closed. >> >> >> >>> The vote >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> passes >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > with 4(+1) votes. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > Following IPMC votes were received. >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > *+1* >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > hsaputra >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > mfranklin >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > arvind >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > nslater >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > Regards >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > Ankit >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> -- >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> Noah Slater >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> -- >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> Noah Slater >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> -- >> >> >> >>> >>> Noah Slater >> >> >> >>> >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > -- >> >> >> >>> > Noah Slater >> >> >> >>> > https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Noah Slater >> >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Noah Slater >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Noah Slater >> https://twitter.com/nslater >> -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater
