It seems that the dist.apache.org server is down at the moment so I cannot
upload the md5+sha1 files right now.

But I did update the download section [1] on the staged site. It now
includes also the source download link and corrected the wording to
underline that the packaged zip is a convenience.

[1] http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/#download


2014/1/24 Henry Saputra <[email protected]>

> Yes we do use the svnpubsub for our dist directory.
>
> Sometimes there could be delay like few minutes.
>
> - Henry
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Wait 24 hours? Are we not using SvnPubSub? It should be instantaneous.
> >
> > Grab me on Freenode, let's chat real time: nslater
> >
> > On 24 January 2014 21:04, Kasper Sørensen
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I need first to upload those files then and wait 24 hours for the dist
> >> server sync. But yes, will do that first.
> >> Den 24/01/2014 21.02 skrev "Noah Slater" <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >>> Aha. Could you add the MD5 and SHA1 links?
> >>>
> >>> On 24 January 2014 20:57, Kasper Sørensen
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > I am simply looking for confirmation that the download link (and
> release
> >>> > information in general) of the staged site is OK. If so it would be
> great
> >>> > to make out 4.0.0 visible to everyone on the site and start telling
> about
> >>> > it on social media etc. :-)
> >>> > Den 24/01/2014 20.54 skrev "Noah Slater" <[email protected]>:
> >>> >
> >>> >> What do you mean about pushing to the staged site? Would you push to
> >>> >> the actual site after? Any reason you can't just put these in the
> dist
> >>> >> directory and update the live site immediately?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 24 January 2014 16:50, Kasper Sørensen
> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> > OK that's what I did. And the deps are compatible, we did a lot of
> >>> checks
> >>> >> > on that already (when we e.g. removed the access module because it
> >>> didn't
> >>> >> > have compatible deps).
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > So then I think we have what we need?
> >>> >> > Is it then ok If I publish the staged site?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > 2014/1/24 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> A zip file could be provided as a convenience binary. If the
> deps are
> >>> >> >> compatible from a license perspective, you could include them
> too.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On 23 January 2014 22:58, Kasper Sørensen
> >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > Btw. a simple uber jar would not be sufficient since it would
> not
> >>> >> contain
> >>> >> >> > dependencies. It would maybe mean less JAR entries on your
> >>> classpath
> >>> >> but
> >>> >> >> > will still not be functional without a minimum set of slf4j and
> >>> maybe
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> >> few
> >>> >> >> > other common libraries.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > 2014/1/23 Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> So now I am a little bit confused... Can the zip file I
> created be
> >>> >> used
> >>> >> >> as
> >>> >> >> >> a convenience downloadable binary item? I think it makes
> sense in
> >>> >> this
> >>> >> >> way?
> >>> >> >> >> And it is quite consistent with e.g. how Apache Hadoop is
> being
> >>> >> >> >> distributed.... Am I not right?
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> 2014/1/23 Henry Saputra <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> Yeah you are right there. Technically all the jar we add to
> the
> >>> >> >> >>> staging repo for VOTE should not even considered for voting.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> As you have mentioned, ASF only vote on source files, so
> that is
> >>> >> why I
> >>> >> >> >>> think we could include the uber jar in the staging as part of
> >>> >> proposed
> >>> >> >> >>> release artifacts as convenience for testing and verify
> validity
> >>> of
> >>> >> >> >>> the package via hash check and sig).
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> - Henry
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Noah Slater <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> > The uber jar includes third-party works and is a binary
> file,
> >>> >> isn't
> >>> >> >> >>> > it? We only ever vote on source files.
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> > My understanding of what this uber jar is tells me that it
> can
> >>> be
> >>> >> >> >>> > prepared by anyone, at any time, and made available to our
> >>> >> community,
> >>> >> >> >>> > as long as we don't call it a "release". And make it clear
> it
> >>> is
> >>> >> for
> >>> >> >> >>> > convenience only, and not an official product of the PMC.
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> > On 23 January 2014 19:57, Henry Saputra <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Yes, but I think we would like to include the uber jar as
> >>> part of
> >>> >> >> >>> >> release artifact next time.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> For this release, we do not have to put the uber jar
> since it
> >>> was
> >>> >> >> not
> >>> >> >> >>> >> included in the VOTE thread.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> I would recommend put the "deps" libraries somewhere like
> in
> >>> >> >> >>> >> people.apache.org and update the release note to indicate
> >>> this.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Any other thoughts?
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> - Henry
> >>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Noah Slater <
> >>> >> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> If we're doing this, it's important to mark out the
> different
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> locations in our download directory. One for the source
> >>> >> *release*
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> the other for the convenience packages that project
> >>> committers
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> provide. We need to be careful about the wording here on
> the
> >>> >> >> website
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> too.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> On 23 January 2014 17:42, Henry Saputra <
> >>> >> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> Ankit, could you help make sure ALL the artifacts used
> in
> >>> the
> >>> >> VOTE
> >>> >> >> >>> are
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> released to the dist directory? Thanks!
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> Kasper, we could build "uber jar" to include all the
> >>> >> dependencies
> >>> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> one jar. Using something like Maven shade plugin [1]
> should
> >>> do
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> trick.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> - Henry
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Kasper Sørensen
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Not sure why the md5 and sha1 files are missing. Maybe
> >>> Ankit
> >>> >> >> simply
> >>> >> >> >>> forgot
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> to copy them over?
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Regarding the dep jars ... What I am thinking about is
> that
> >>> >> say I
> >>> >> >> >>> have my
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> own build setup (e.g. with Ant or so) and I want to go
> >>> >> download
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> Spring
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Framework, Hibernate or any other substantial Java
> library
> >>> >> with
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> dependencies, then I usually find a bundle which
> contains
> >>> >> >> >>> dependencies.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> That's very helpful if I just want to dump them into
> the
> >>> >> >> classpath
> >>> >> >> >>> and
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> start compiling etc. How would a MetaModel user do
> that if
> >>> we
> >>> >> >> don't
> >>> >> >> >>> provide
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> these jars somehow?
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Of course the Maven users are blessed with the
> dependency
> >>> >> >> >>> management, and
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> that's also why I put the <dependency> snippet
> directly on
> >>> the
> >>> >> >> >>> website
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> draft as well.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>> 2014/1/23 Henry Saputra <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We should not add those deps jars to the dist folder.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We could write doc in the wiki on how to integrate
> with
> >>> >> >> MetaModel
> >>> >> >> >>> from
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> your project.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Like if you use Maven the add MetaModel dependency in
> the
> >>> >> >> pom.xml
> >>> >> >> >>> that
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> should pull transitive dependencies on when building
> your
> >>> >> Maven
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> project.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> - Henry
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Sørensen
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > I have a new draft available then:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/index.html
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > Go to the section called "Download".
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > One specific doubt I have: Our build did not
> produce a
> >>> >> >> finished
> >>> >> >> >>> zip file
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > with all the JAR files in it (including the
> dependencies
> >>> >> like
> >>> >> >> >>> slf4j etc.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > which are only mentioned as maven <dependency>
> >>> elements).
> >>> >> So I
> >>> >> >> >>> created
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> one
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > manually and put it here:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/metamodel/metamodel-4.0.0-incubating/packaged/
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > Along with my own armor/.asc file.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > Is that the right way to do it? Is the contents of
> this
> >>> >> file
> >>> >> >> >>> correct (in
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > the sense that it contains third party JARs in the
> lib
> >>> >> >> folder)?
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> > 2014/1/22 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> See this:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> https://www.apache.org/dev/release-download-pages.html
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> On 22 January 2014 14:23, Kasper Sørensen
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > Thanks for the CouchDB example Noah. Will try to
> do
> >>> >> >> something
> >>> >> >> >>> similar.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > Now another "little thing" ... How do we get the
> >>> >> >> downloadable
> >>> >> >> >>> zip
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> files
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > etc. available on the download server of Apache?
> I
> >>> see
> >>> >> that
> >>> >> >> >>> all large
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> files
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > go through a link like this:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?path=/couchdb/binary/win/1.5.0/setup-couchdb-1.5.0_R16B02.exe
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > I imagine that's to support download mirrors
> etc...
> >>> Is
> >>> >> that
> >>> >> >> >>> kinda
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> stuff
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > already taken care of by Ankit's release
> procedure,
> >>> or
> >>> >> do
> >>> >> >> we
> >>> >> >> >>> need to
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> do
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > something more for the distribution part of the
> >>> release?
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> > 2014/1/22 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> Congrats!
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> On 21 January 2014 13:05, Ankit Kumar <
> >>> >> >> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > HI All,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > The vote for Apache Metamodel
> 4.0.0-incubating is
> >>> >> >> closed.
> >>> >> >> >>> The vote
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> passes
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > with 4(+1) votes.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > Following IPMC votes were received.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > *+1*
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > hsaputra
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > mfranklin
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > arvind
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > nslater
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > Regards
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> > Ankit
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> Noah Slater
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> --
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> Noah Slater
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> --
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Noah Slater
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >>> > --
> >>> >> >> >>> > Noah Slater
> >>> >> >> >>> > https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> Noah Slater
> >>> >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Noah Slater
> >>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Noah Slater
> >>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noah Slater
> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>

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