Hello Go,
The answer is when? How much resources (developer) do you need? I might
spread the voices throughs meetup.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.


2018-04-02 10:58 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <[email protected]>:

> As far as I understand the official repository is here.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> The contents have been unchanged for 2 years while actual development
> works have been active in other repositories.
>
> I think the problem is in lack of human resources for review/edit
> pull-requests at the master repository.
> We need such active editorial efforts at the master repository to support
> modern development style with CI/CD.
> CI/CD workflows require a fork repository at each organization, and
> releases from organizations will be merged to the master by pull-requests.
> However nobody has been working for the role so far.
>
> NTT would like to solve the issue by taking the role, and would like to
> join the management  loop of this project because we need to discuss/define
> criterion for review and edit.
>
> Regards,
> Go Yamamoto
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Platform dependency
>
> Ok,
> it is a mess to have spread repositories in two sites. I will expect to
> have directly in the Apache ASF. I don't know which is the direct
> repository.  For now i have been able to build the lib on ubuntu with
> github no apache repo I am bit confused about 11 repos at Apache, which
> code is not updated since 2 years..What is the block (to remove) to move
> your current repository to apache? And when will be the first release of at
> least the library? Can I help in planning and merging the repositories?  If
> we dont release often, we cannot spread the voice, integrate iwth other
> apache products and the community will not grow.
> Best Regards,
> Giorgio.
>
> 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <[email protected]>:
>
> > Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and
> > it should work with react, too.
> >
> > If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> > However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module
> > and I hope this would answer your question.
> >
> > The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> > replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As
> > we demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress,
> > Drupal, and many other applications.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Go Yamamoto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >
> > Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
> >
> >
> > 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <[email protected]>:
> >
> > > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> > >
> > > "We" means NTT in this context.
> > >
> > > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code
> > > at the official repository.
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> > >
> > > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official
> > > repository resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to
> install it.
> > >
> > > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Go Yamamoto
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John D. Ament [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> > > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
> > > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> > >
> > > Who is "we" in this case?
> > > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Go Yamamoto
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > >
> > > > Hi Go,
> > > >
> > > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to
> > > > fill in
> > > the
> > > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> > > >
> > > > Nikolai
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok,
> > > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> > > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <[email protected]
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> > > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> > > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it
> > > > > > is the master of the project.
> > > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> > > > > advancements
> > > > > > at the local repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We can start right now.
> > > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code.
> > > > > > Porting some
> > > > > code
> > > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > <[email protected]
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to
> > > > > > > start the official repository to share the codes we have
> > > > > > > worked for
> > > years.
> > > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> > > > > participate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Go Yamamto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> > > > > > > To: '[email protected]'
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is
> > > > > > > responsible to present a roadmap.
> > > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Go
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> > > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> > > <[email protected]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being
> > > > > > > > able to participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> > > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand
> point.
> > > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to
> > > > > > > > manipulate the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the
> > > > > > > > project mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in
> > > > > > > > order for this to happen, hasn't
> > > > > > been clear.
> > > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't
> > > > > > > > have resources to lead the project, but the question is -
> > > > > > > > in a community like this, who is responsible to craft a
> roadmap?
> > > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> > > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I
> > > > > > > > guess if/when NTT take the leading role on the project,
> > > > > > > > they can propose a
> > > roadmap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> > > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> > > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> > > roadmap.
> > > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> > > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> > > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we
> > > > > > > > have found no problems in actual use in our engineering
> activities.
> > > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> > > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does
> > > > > > > > not seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test
> > > > > > > > codes are required for the first release, they will at
> > > > > > > > least help further development activities.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> > > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> > > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> > > > > > > > they are
> > > > > > merged.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     Regards,
> > > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > > > > > >     To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     BTW,
> > > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> > > > > > > > as
> > > well?
> > > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
> release?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> > > > > > > > inside
> > > Apache?
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be
> > > > > > > > used from
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> > > > > > > > make sure
> > > > > Go
> > > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> > > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> John
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to
> > > > > > > > provide our
> > > > > > > perspective
> > > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > > >     >> the project.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> > > > > > > > move the
> > > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> > repository
> > > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> > > > > > > > original
> > > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
> project,
> > > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> > > repository
> > > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> > > > > > > > to the best of my
> > > > > > > >     >> memory.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role
> > > > > > > > in the project
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> > > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> > > > > > > >     >> > on
> > > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will
> > > > > > > > help on getting
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
> the
> > > head.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> > > MIRACL.
> > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> > > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> > implications
> > > I
> > > am
> > > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > > >     >> > are
> > > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code
> > > > > > > > within the
> > > > > > podling.
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     John
> > > > > > > >     >> >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > > > > > >     >> > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> > > library.
> > > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I
> > > > > > > > would like to ask
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
> > > ready
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > commit.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> > > > > repository
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> > from
> > > > > MIRACL
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> > > > > continuously,
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >     >> > seems
> > > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> > > > > > > > for
> > > years.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
> take
> > > over
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> > > problem.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> > [email protected]
> > > ]
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
> > > about
> > > > > > > > retirement.
> > > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> > > > > > > > help out the project.
> > > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> > has
> > > > > > included
> > > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
> > > move
> > > of
> > > > > > > > source
> > > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> > nothing.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> > > > > repositories
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >     >> > not
> > > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
> Milagro
> > > should
> > > > > > > > retire.
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > > > > > >     >>
> > > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.or
> > > > > > > > g
> > > > > %3E
> > > > > > > >     >> >     >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nikolai Stoilov
> > > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> > > > MIRACL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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