Alex,

Dave is already a PMC member.  We could invite Dan and Timothy.
Should the invitation as easy as modification of the authorization
file and sending a message to the board, because we forgot to invite
them to the PMC when we import AsyncWeb?

PS: Of course we need to add them to the committer if they are not,
although I guess all they are already.

Trustin

On Jan 22, 2008 4:36 AM, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually I think as with FTPServer the people on the Asyncweb project should
> also be on the PMC to have binding votes.  Or else they cannot vote to
> release etc.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2008 2:33 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Timothy !
> >
> > > Timothy Bennett wrote:
> > >
> > > On Jan 21, 2008 1:07 AM, Trustin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> And, I personally think providing the codecs for essential protocols
> > >> such as HTTP, FTP and SMTP as a part of the main MINA distribution
> > >> makes a developer's life much easier when what he wants is just a
> > >> minimal client / server.  That's what I've been talking in ApacheCons
> > >> and you can see that clearly in my slide files, which were uploaded in
> > >> the official site since 2005.  It's interesting that nobody argued
> > >> about the road map I proposed since then.  Actually we got some
> > >> positive feed back related with the HTTP codec from users due to this
> > >> decision.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > That's all well and good, but I doubt anyone understood that the method
> > > utilized would be to lobotomize and existing project in order to grow
> > the
> > > core codecs.  As an original and core committer of the AsyncWeb project
> > over
> > > at Safehaus, when I was asked to give permission for the code to be
> > donated
> > > to the Apache Mina project, the impression was *not* that it was going
> > to be
> > > gutted and absorbed into the Mina core.   My impression was that Mina
> > was
> > > going to host AsyncWeb until we gained enough momentum to enter the
> > > incubator of our own accord. In fact, the Directory-Mina model was
> > > specifically noted as an example.
> > >
> > I think this is still the way it should go. And as the project is
> > already in MINA, it won't be necessary to go through incubation to
> > become a TLP (or a subproject).
> > > I'm not arguing that Mina doesn't need a HTTP codec in its core, but I
> > > certainly don't agree that codec should be an absorption of the AsyncWeb
> > > codebase.  I believe the AsyncWeb project has a lot of potential as a
> > > separate project on its own, and I've very exciting that it is finally
> > in
> > > ASF where we can start to build a thriving community around it.
> > >
> > The clock is ticking ;) Let's build this community now !
> > > I know my vote doesn't count for anything in the Mina project,
> > Not true. Even if there are some binding votes and some unbinding votes,
> > what is important is what people are bringing on the table, much more
> > that the vote. So your vote is important to us.
> >
> > Remember that we try to reach concensus, and we often succeed in doing
> > so. In this case, your -1 is not just a lonely shout in the outer space ;)
> >
> > Thanks a lot for AsyncWeb, btw !
> >
> > --
> > --
> > cordialement, regards,
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > www.iktek.com
> > directory.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
>



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