On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Robert Scholte <[email protected]> wrote:
> So it is really another type of beast for file transportation.
> It's a shame that this won't work with Wagon, because that would mean that
> this can only be used as plugin and never as extension, right?

Correct. I dont intend to make it as a maven extension until there is
a real need for it

> So I'm ok with the maven-plugin (although it uses a weird package right now),

   you mean with the name: vfs-maven-plugin?  if so, yes it wont make
any sense until user google it

>but not with the patched fork.
> Forks can be a start for a lot of trouble (see Mark Strubergs mail about the
> osx-maven-plugin lately).
> If we start with such behavior, that's not a good sign.
>

You have not convinced me that temporary release this plugin's vfs-smb
provider at codehaus is a bad sign.
I could not imaging this provider would land here forever.



> There's one bug in the release-plugin, which would help in your case
> (actually, it is one I've started to work on recently)
> the maven-release-plugin can't detect SNAPSHOTs defined as plugin
> dependency.

Not sure if the current discussion has any thing to do with release plugin

>
> Anyhow, I'm just 1 of the team, maybe others think otherwise.
>

> Robert

Thanks


>> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:10:53 -0700
>
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
>> vfs-maven-plugin beta 1 and its sub components
>>
>> > I hope you meant vfs-maven-plugin when you said svn-maven-plugin...
>>
>> Sorry, typo
>>
>> > So you forked the current commons-vfs, but did you patch it too? In not,
>> > why
>>
>> No I only fork commons-vfs's smb provider from commons-vfs's sandbox
>> I do provide a patch for it it at
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VFS-438.
>> my vfs-maven-plugin works directory with commons-vfs-2.0 ( core and
>> all of its available providers )
>>
>> I would prefer not to shade it, since i may not work with VFS
>> provider discovery.
>>
>> One compromise is to rename the codehaus's vfs-smb provider form
>> org.apache.commns.vfs
>> to org.codehaus.mojo.vfs. But I dont see it is logistically
>> necessary ( best to document it )
>>
>>
>>
>> > Is there a reason why you need is this fast?
>>
>> Yes, i am about to use it in production ( I need to release my
>> internal project which depends on vfs-maven-plugin and its components
>> ( including the forked smb provider )
>>
>> > Is there a way to merge this with
>> > http://mojo.codehaus.org/wagon-maven-plugin/ (I wasn't aware this was a
>> > codehaus project)
>>
>> It not possible to merge with wagon-maven-plugin( I am the main
>> maintainer of this w.m.p ) since the it heavily depends on maven local
>> runtime
>>
>> my vfs-maven-plugin, is the attempt to replace wagon-maven-plugin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Robert Scholte <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I hope you meant vfs-maven-plugin when you said svn-maven-plugin...
>> >
>> > I've reread your original mail and just noticed a small
>> > misunderstanding.
>> > So you forked the current commons-vfs, but did you patch it too? In not,
>> > why
>> > not use the maven-shade-plugin.
>> > Otherwise I'd prefer to wait for the first release of commons-vfs.
>> > Is there a reason why you need is this fast?
>> >
>> > Is there a way to merge this with
>> > http://mojo.codehaus.org/wagon-maven-plugin/ (I wasn't aware this was a
>> > codehaus project)
>> >
>> > -Robert
>> >
>> > ps. my verdict is -0
>> >> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:28:57 -0700
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >
>> >> Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
>> >> vfs-maven-plugin beta 1 and its sub components
>> >>
>> >> So what is the verdict here?, Is it ok to release my vfs-smb together
>> >> with svn-maven-plugin at codehaus until commons-vfs promote it. Let's
>> >> user test this out, that is why we call it beta.
>> >> I dont see any logistic problem with this approach.
>> >>
>> >> and I do like the ldea to campaigning commons-vfs to accept it and I
>> >> would volunteer to maintain it there. But that is another journey
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> -D
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Robert Scholte
>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Let me rephrase this a bit:
>> >> > I think what happened to the tomcat-maven-plugin is a good thing: let
>> >> > the
>> >> > developers of the framework/webcontainer/tool/etc. maintain their own
>> >> > Maven
>> >> > plugin.
>> >> > Most of the time you want to keep these in sync.
>> >> > For instance: we're having quite some trouble to follow the pace of
>> >> > GWT.
>> >> > To me your situation looks similar to the tomcat-situation.
>> >> >
>> >> > About the wagon-extra: I thought the vfs-project is about
>> >> > InputStreams
>> >> > and
>> >> > OutputStreams, just like the Wagon-project. But I can be wrong here.
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert
>> >> >> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:55:15 +0200
>> >> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
>> >> >> vfs-maven-plugin beta 1 and its sub components
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Are you suggesting me to move the entire vfs-maven-plugin to
>> >> >> > github?
>> >> >> > I am not ready to go there yet, this is where I comfortable with
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > years
>> >> >> > and feedbacks and helps here are great.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No. I was just saying that Mojo shouldn't be used just to get some
>> >> >> jar
>> >> >> to central. But it's a good place for a plugin that could be of
>> >> >> interest for other people.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> /Anders
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Dan
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Anders Hammar <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> I'm with Robert here. If you're just looking for some area to do
>> >> >> >> releases from you should start your own Github account and use
>> >> >> >> Sonatype OSSRH for syncing to central.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> /Anders
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Robert Scholte
>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> Hi Dan,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> shouldn't vfs be something like wagon-extra?
>> >> >> >>> What is your idea what will happen once commons-vfs is released?
>> >> >> >>> I
>> >> >> >>> cannot
>> >> >> >>> imagine they'll make a maven-plugin as part of their release
>> >> >> >>> (that
>> >> >> >>> would be
>> >> >> >>> the first commons-project).
>> >> >> >>> As you mentioned yourself: the packaging is now confusing, but
>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> all
>> >> >> >>> depends on the future of this plugin.
>> >> >> >>> IMO codehaus shouldn't be used as a kickoff area if you're sure
>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> this is
>> >> >> >>> not the final destination of the plugin.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Robert
>> >> >> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:35:58 -0700
>> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
>> >> >> >>>> To: [email protected]
>> >> >> >>>> Subject: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
>> >> >> >>>> vfs-maven-plugin
>> >> >> >>>> beta 1 and its sub components
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> ping,
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Looks like no objection on proceeding to release vfs-smb at
>> >> >> >>>> codehaus
>> >> >> >>>> :-)
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> -D
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Dan Tran <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> > Hello,
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> > After a few months of testing internally, I would like to
>> >> >> >>>> > proceed
>> >> >> >>>> > with
>> >> >> >>>> > the first beta release. However, I would like to open a
>> >> >> >>>> > discussion
>> >> >> >>>> > on
>> >> >> >>>> > distribution of vfs-smb which is a fork from apacche's
>> >> >> >>>> > commons-vfs's
>> >> >> >>>> > sandbox. This provider passes all of the generic test suite (
>> >> >> >>>> > except
>> >> >> >>>> > 2 related to classloader, may related to osgi requirements ),
>> >> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >> >>>> > provider will not be release any time soon either.
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> > So I would like release vfs-smb at codehaus, keep the same
>> >> >> >>>> > java
>> >> >> >>>> > package name, until commns-vfs officially release it
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> > Any objection for me do so, otherwise please provide
>> >> >> >>>> > alternative
>> >> >> >>>> > solution
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> > big thanks ahead
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> > -Dan
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
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