Stan's cycles aside, it's probably just a case of JBoss wanting to have
all of their ducks in order for their next AS release. Going with the
'stable' RI 1.2 right now is one issue they don't need to worry about in
the immediate future.
That's not to say that JBoss couldn't easily switch over to MyFaces 1.2
a little later based on community support. I've been reading about some
of the state saving/jboss serialization integration that the myfaces
devs were looking at, and it's those kinds of commitments that could
quickly place MyFaces 1.2 in a preferred position for AS integration
once you reach 1.2 compliance.
Stan Silvert wrote:
You mentioned that this decision was because of time and resources.
There is no reason to doubt, of course. Stan, don't get me wrong. I
appreciate your contributions and thank you for your offer to commit
the 1.2 stuff. Perhaps you where a little bit frustrated to get not
much support from the community the last weeks. Ok, our fault. But,
hey, this is Apache open source land. Many of us have day jobs not
directly related to MyFaces.
No, it had nothing to do with frustration on my part. I totally
understand what it's like to do open source on nights and weekends. I
don't fault anyone at MyFaces. It really wasn't my decision to make.
But, there was no way to make an argument that spending 60 hours a week
on MyFaces was a good use of my time. I have a responsibility to do
right by my employer.
However, supporting Apache MyFaces further on would have been a strong
signal from JBoss to the open source community. Too bad.
I do differ with you there. You don't get more "open source community"
than JBoss. We live it, breathe it, eat it, and feed our children with
it. We've proven that you don't have to just do open source on nights
and weekends. You can make it your day job. More developers should
insist on spending their time doing what they love instead of being
stuck in boring IT jobs.
To that end, I will now be able to work on open source projects that
expand the usefulness of JSF in general. I'm sorry if the MyFaces core
impl suffers, but the overall community actually benefits.
I want to reiterate - this has nothing to do with our opinion of MyFaces
or Apache. The whole effort just wasn't making a lot of sense. I still
think MyFaces is cool, for lots of reasons.
Regards,
Manfred
On 5/9/06, Stan Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have some news for everyone. The JavaOne Committers/Contributors
meeting
is cancelled - at least for me. I won't be attending JavaOne this
year.
Since nobody from JBoss will be at the MyFaces meeting, I don't
think
JBoss
will be able to sponsor the event. If you still want the meeting to
happen
I will find out if the room is cancelled or not. If the room is
cancelled
then maybe another company can pick up the cost. It wasn't very
expensive
(I think around $500).
Also, JBoss has decided to use the RI instead of MyFaces for JBoss
5.
The
decision was purely one of time and resources. By shipping the RI
we
will
be able to pass the JEE 5 TCK sooner. It also means that I can be
reassigned to other JSF-related projects.
There is some good news:
1) I will commit the 1.2 code that I have already written. It
is
fairly substantial and should give MyFaces a good head start on 1.2
compliance.
2) Though I won't be as active as in the past few months, I'll
still
keep an eye on MyFaces work as time allows.
3) JBoss is upping its involvement in the JSF community. I
can't
say
much at this point about that. You probably already know about
JBoss
Seam,
but there is more cool JSF stuff where that came from.
Best regards,
Stan Silvert
JBoss, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
callto://stansilvert
________________________________
From: Stan Silvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:54 PM
To: MyFaces Development
Subject: JavaOne MyFaces Committers/Contributors meeting
In addition to the dinner, it sounded like there was interest in a
MyFaces
"Committers and Contributors" meeting.
Please let me know if you are coming and if you are willing to lead
a
discussion.
I got JBoss to sponsor the meeting and we now have a room booked for
20-
30
people at the Hotel Palomar (across the street from the Marriott).
We
are
booked on Wednesday, the 17th:
- 20-30 people classroom style so you all will have desks
- afternoon from 1pm to 5pm
- 3pm break with refreshments - sodas and water. Maybe some
light
snacks?
- LCD projector, one microphone, a screen and wireless mouse
I'm open to the format, but I was thinking we could do it BOF-style
with
some short presentations and lots of Q&A. Here are some suggestions
for
topics:
Project History and Overview (Manfred, would you be willing to do
this
one?)
Project Infrastructure (SVN tips?, MVN tips?, How stuff is
organized.
Future
Plans for component unification?)
Tomahawk
Tobago
ADF
The JSF Community and Ecosystem
JSF Portlets (I'll do this one if folks are interested)
JSF 1.2
Again, please respond if you will attend and if you can lead a
discussion.
Stan Silvert
JBoss, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
callto://stansilvert
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