It might be worthwhile to check out some of the stuff proposed by HLS for tapestry 5-- I do like the way he/others are handling bindings instead of exposing them to the end developer. The way bindings/attributes are handled in JSF are by far the worst aspect of the API (maybe a close second to statesaving requirements).
Some of the other ideas he's proposing around queuing commands/events for post processing on submit are pretty interesting, but I'm intrigued as to how the N iteration cases will be handled and if the state size would get just as bad as with JSF, where JSF forces some of these events to backing beans in other scopes, not serialized. I had discussed some similar ideas around pushing a 2 phase component lifecycle (encode/decode) and queueing events for processing with literal references, consolidating to only 2 tree walks. Also, avoiding mapping parent/child relationships within the component itself might be something to look at. This would allow us to have components that exist in different lifecycles, much like EJBs, instead of forcing transient relationships upon child branches. This can be solved a couple ways: either through injection like the other APIs, or via the filter pattern, passing in a pointer to the children when you process a given event. It'd be cool if Sun started a JSF 2.0 project on Java.net to start publishing ideas in wiki format to get better community input. -- Jacob >Hi there, > >Ed Burns, Jesse Alexander and me will be heading a discussion on what >our users dreamed JSF 2.0 would be like - on friday, 2006/09/29, in >Munich, at the Oktoberfest. > >So it's a good opportunity for both talking about JSF and drinking >beer - probably the best of the world. We'll meet up in: > >http://www.weisses-brauhaus.de/ > >at 18:00 > >and if you're interested in coming, reply to this mail and I'll >include you in the reservation. > >regards, > >Martin > >-- > >http://www.irian.at > >Your JSF powerhouse - >JSF Consulting, Development and >Courses in English and German > >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
