I know the specs can be vague sometimes, but I don't interpret the first
paragraph of section 5.4 as meaning the JSF implementation is responsible
for @EJB, @Resources, etc.  The JSF spec specifically mentions "the
container to inject references".  If Geronimo can intercept the
instantiation of these classes in the classloader (something I know nothing
about right now), I think we are all good here.  Wouldn't MyFaces then be
observing the requirements (in plain java) around @PostConstruct after
Geronimo had injected the resources?

I think the JSF impl is only responsible for @PostConstruct and
@Predestroy.  This makes sense because scoped (request, session,
application) are the only candidates for this, and it would be more awkward
to do that from the container. I say all of this in an open manner, so
anyone feel free to discuss.

You're point about javax.annotation being in the Servlet 2.5 is taken.  I
totally missed that.

Dennis Byrne

On 2/26/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Actually by "dependency injection" I'm specifically referring to the
portion of the JSF spec that discusses injecting resources where
certain annotations are found in a managed bean.  So, while scanning
for the @PreConstruct and @PostDestroy annotations MyFaces would also
scan for @EJB, @Resource, @WebServiceRef, etc and then time the
invocation of @PreConstruct and @PostDestroy to support the injection.

Tomcat provides an example of how this can be done.  The following
class scans for annotations when a web app starts:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/tc6.0.x/trunk/java/org/apache/catalina/startup/WebAnnotationSet.java

And then this class handles the injection and calling the
PostConstruct and PreDestroy methods when an servlet, filter, or
listener is brought into service:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/tc6.0.x/trunk/java/org/apache/catalina/util/DefaultAnnotationProcessor.java

Would it make sense for MyFaces to follow a similar approach for
managed beans?  Also, I'm curious why you're hoping to avoid importing
classes from javax.annotation classes since servlet 2.5 containers are
required to support them.  Is this so that MyFaces 1.2 can support
servlet 2.4 containers?

Best wishes,
Paul

On 2/26/07, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I ended up going with Servlet/Request/Context attribute listeners for
> @PreDestroy.  This did not involve importing javax.annotation.PreDestroy,
so
> people w/out application servers don't have to worry about
> ClassDefNotFoundErrors.  This also keeps us compatible with the
reference
> implementation in terms of timing, although I really wish they'd change
the
> wording in the spec.
>
> Dennis Byrne
>
>
> On 2/26/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry if I'm behind on this discussion but what are the current
> > thoughts on how dependency injection will be implemented for managed
> > beans?  The reason I'm curious is because PreDestroy and PostConstruct
> > annotations are used to deal with injected resources, so from a timing
> > perspective it would be important to process all these annotations
> > accordingly.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Paul
> >
> > On 2/24/07, Dennis Byrne < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm weighing options about invoking @PreDestroy methods
(@PostConstruct
> is
> > > done BTW).  I haven't made up my mind yet but here's where I'm at on
> this.
> > >
> > > As far as *when* this happens, the request is easy, in
> > > FacesServelet.service(). Session and app scope are more difficult
> decisions.
> > > A new HttpSessionActivationListener.attributeRemoved
> and a
> > > new ServletContextAttributeListener.attributeRemoved()
> seem
> > > like nice solutions, but this doesn't meet the spec requirements for
> 5.4.1.
> > > The methods have to be invoked *before* the bean is pulled from
scope
> and
> > > the servlet API does not provide a
> > >
> ServletContextAttributeListener.attribute_WILL_BE_Removed()
> > > or a
> > > HttpSessionActivationListener.attribute_WILL_BE_Removed
> ().
> > >  Also, I say *new* ServletContextAttributeListener and because
> > > StartupServletContextListener (already in code base) implements
> > > ServletContextListener, not
> > > ServletContextAttributeListener.
> > >
> > > The other side of the problem is *how* to invoke each @PreDestroy
> method,
> > > much easier.  Iterating over the attributes at each scope level is
> trivial,
> > > and so is determining if the bean's class is a managed bean class.
But
> this
> > > does not mean the *instance* was placed there by the JSF
implementation.
> > > Using a list (at each level of scope) to track managed instances
solves
> the
> > > problem, as long as you sync on the session (only one time per
session)
> in
> > > order to avoid concurrency issues; it also means three more data
> structures
> > > in memory.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dennis Byrne
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dennis Byrne




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Dennis Byrne

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