Hi

Just one minor comment (I didn't now it): public review for jsf 2.0 is now
available at:

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=314

regards

Leonardo Uribe

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Gerhard Petracek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> hello jan-kees,
>
> first of all: thank you for your contributions!
>
> i had a quick look at some of your patches.
> and i compared them with the snapshot version of mojarra + the javadoc [1]
>
> the patches i compared look similar to the current source code of the
> snapshot (method order, var names,...) and also some javadoc comments are
> the same (example for the javadoc: [2] and [3]).
> there are also classes with slight variations.
>
> anyway, we have to take care that we don't violate the licenses used by
> mojarra (cddl and gpl).
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> [1]
> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/nonav/snapshots/pr1/javadocs/index.html
> [2]
> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/nonav/snapshots/pr1/javadocs/javax/faces/render/RenderKitWrapper.html
> [3]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12394962/RenderKitWrapper.patch
>
>
>
> 2008/12/2 Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello same here I wanted to check in the patches on Wednesday which
>> currently is my JSF 2.0 day as well...
>> So we might be able to share the work.
>> Btw. Jan have you signed the CLI or CLA already?
>> Unfortunately we have to be a little bit nitpicky about having this signed
>> not to get into legal trouble ;-)
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> Simon Lessard schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi Jan-Kees,
>>>
>>> Yeah I saw the patches, thanks for that. I'll check them in/comment them
>>> on Wednesday evening which is my JSF 2.0 day.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> ~ Simon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Jan-Kees van Andel <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     From my point of view, it's nice to do something back to the
>>>    community, instead of only using MyFaces...
>>>
>>>    I've been implementing some classes yesterday. Created a Jira ticket
>>>    for all of them (sometimes grouped similar classes together).
>>>
>>>    Please look at it and tell me if this is the right way to do things.
>>>    I'm sure there are things to improve.
>>>
>>>    Regards,
>>>
>>>    Jan-Kees
>>>
>>>    @Matthias: Good to hear my help is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>    2008/12/1 Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>>>     > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Simon Lessard
>>>     > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>     >> Hi,
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Yes you can, but make sure to create a JIRA ticket for every
>>>    change. You'll
>>>     >> find that most new classes and methods are already there though,
>>>    but some
>>>     >> new ones just popped with the public review version.
>>>     >
>>>     > it is great to see more and more active folks here!
>>>     >
>>>     > -Matthias
>>>     >
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Regards,
>>>     >>
>>>     >> ~ Simon
>>>     >>
>>>     >> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Jan-Kees van Andel
>>>     >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> All right, in that case, shall I start implementing those new
>>>    API classes?
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> I'm sure there's little fun for you guys in implementing all
>>> those
>>>     >>> interfaces/etc. ;-)
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> /Jan-Kees
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> 2008/11/29 Simon Lessard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>>>     >>> > Hi Jan-Kees,
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>> > MyFaces has its own version of the javax.faces.8 within
>>>    myfaces-api.jar
>>>     >>> > file. That file obviously has the same content as Mojarra's,
>>>    but with
>>>     >>> > different code and thus a different bug/peformance base.
>>>    However I must
>>>     >>> > admit that most difference reside within the -impl
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>> > Regards,
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>> > ~ Simon
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Jan-Kees van Andel
>>>     >>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >> Hi all,
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >> It might be a stupid question, but where does the MyFaces
>>>    javax.faces
>>>     >>> >> codebase come from? Is it copied straight from Mojarra? Or
>>>    does this
>>>     >>> >> cause
>>>     >>> >> licensing issues and must all files be created by hand,
>>>    based on the
>>>     >>> >> spec?
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >> A.t.m., many of the new classes, like the pdl.facelets
>>>    package are
>>>     >>> >> missing.
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >> If you guys want, I can start adding them to myfaces2 if it
>>>    needs to be
>>>     >>> >> done by hand.
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >> Regards,
>>>     >>> >> Jan-Kees
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >> 2008/11/27 Simon Lessard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>> I don't think just dropping the code will be enough. There
>>>    are some
>>>     >>> >>> contract difference between Facelets and Facelets in JSF
>>>    2.0. Although
>>>     >>> >>> they're mostly compatible, some interfaces were added (see
>>>    pdl) and
>>>     >>> >>> the
>>>     >>> >>> createView contract was changed as well (forcing full tree
>>>    population
>>>     >>> >>> that
>>>     >>> >>> doesn't seem to be the case in Facelets code atm).
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>> Furthermore, imho it's quite healthy to fork the code as
>>>    it's going to
>>>     >>> >>> start an improvement "competition" between Mojarra's
>>>    Facelets and our
>>>     >>> >>> Facelets, much like what happened when MyFaces was first
>>>    implemented,
>>>     >>> >>> much
>>>     >>> >>> faster than RI at the time, forcing the latter to improve
>>>    their own
>>>     >>> >>> code and
>>>     >>> >>> so on.
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>> That being said, if the community feels like we should
>>>    limit the
>>>     >>> >>> amount
>>>     >>> >>> of changes as much as possible (to include Facelets updates
>>>    and bug
>>>     >>> >>> fixes
>>>     >>> >>> every now and then for example), I could also abide to that.
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>> Regards,
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>> ~ Simon
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Werner Punz
>>>    <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>     >>> >>> wrote:
>>>     >>> >>>>
>>>     >>> >>>> Kito Mann schrieb:
>>>     >>> >>>>>
>>>     >>> >>>>> Hey Simon,
>>>     >>> >>>>>
>>>     >>> >>>>> Just curious: are you guys implementing Facelets from
>>>    scratch?
>>>     >>> >>>>>
>>>     >>> >>>> I have not had a look yet at the current codebase, but to my
>>>     >>> >>>> knowledge
>>>     >>> >>>> facelets itself has been relizenced under ASF2
>>>     >>> >>>> I would suggest just for the sake of keeping the
>>>    compatibility close
>>>     >>> >>>> no reimplementation just drag the code over, dont change
>>>    the packages
>>>     >>> >>>> if possible so that we at least there have a shared
>>> codebase.
>>>     >>> >>>> It just does not make sense to do a full reimplementation or
>>>     >>> >>>> to fork the code, since there are no political issues
>>>    between the RI
>>>     >>> >>>> and
>>>     >>> >>>> MyFaces, on the contrary we have an excellent relationship!
>>>     >>> >>>>
>>>     >>> >>>>
>>>     >>> >>>> Werner
>>>     >>> >>>>
>>>     >>> >>>
>>>     >>> >>
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>> >
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > --
>>>     > Matthias Wessendorf
>>>     >
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>>>     >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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