Hmmm … it might be worth looking at using Orchestra without Spring. Guice is 
not an option for your clients either, is it?

If you do not use Spring, you also do not use its persistence capabilities ;-) 
So then, using a CGLIB based (or whatever enhancer lib) approach which simply 
enhances the beans in a way which is required by Orchestra might be enough.

Sure, we can not yet use the faces-config.xml to configure the managed beans 
for Orchestra.
But probably we can introduce something like a orchestra-config.xml for the 
scope and managed bean configuration.

@community: What do you think? Is it worth it?

Ciao,
Mario


Von: Kito Mann [mailto:kito.m...@virtua.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 07. Juli 2009 23:45
An: MyFaces Development
Betreff: Re: Shale Annotations

The problem with using Orchestra is that it requires Spring, which is an extra 
"framework" that some organizations don't necessarily need. Although JSF 
managed beans aren't that great, sometimes they're a better choice than 
integrating Spring into the project.
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Bruno Aranda 
<brunoara...@gmail.com<mailto:brunoara...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

What about just using MyFaces Orchestra? It does many of the thing the
shale tiger extensions used to do (and even includes lots of useful
features). You have the Orchestra view controller annotations and if
you want more annotations, you can use the Spring ones to register
backing beans and so on...

Cheers,

Bruno

2009/7/7 Kito Mann <kito.m...@virtua.com<mailto:kito.m...@virtua.com>>:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I know that MyFaces is in the process of swallowing Shale Test. What do you
> guys think about swallowing Shale Annotations, too? I know it's a dead-end
> add-on considering JSF 2, but I run into enough clients that aren't going to
> be using JSF 2 for a loooong time, and could use annotation support today.
> Given Shale's "retired" status, they're never going to touch it.
>
> Thoughts?
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