Hello everyone,

I think this mail will prove that we can have sometimes no conflict of
interest. Wearing my hat of the Document Foundation, I'd like to state
the following things:
- Everyone, yes, everyone is welcome to join the LibreOffice Project
  and the Document Foundation. 
- We, the Document Foundation, have not asked to Alexandro Colorado to
 put that message on any web page of the OOo ES project.
- He and the ES community are welcome to join us, but it is by
  leaving contributors free to choose their own path and not by forcing
  them that we work. We believe in freedom, not constraint, and do not
  wish to see confusion taking place. 

Wearing my OOo NLC hat:
- unilateral actions depriving contributors of the
  most elementary tools of communication are a very bad thing. While
  I'm sure some people may disagree, debates and discussions are good,
  not constraint, one cannot just shut up mailing lists out of the
  blue. I would like to ask Alexandro, if that's possible to reinstate
  the mailing lists and their archive.

Thank you,

Charles-H. Schulz. 


Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:57:53 -0300,
Ariel Constenla-Haile <ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com> a écrit :

> Hello Louis,
> 
> On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 01:36, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> > I just learned of this site on the ES project and would
> > respectfully ask the lead of the project—Alexandro—to remove it, as
> > it would seem to only instil confusion in the community, and to me
> > is a transgressive use—a misuse—of OpenOffice.org resources.
> > 
> > 
> > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html
> 
> me and other members of the Spanish-speaking community have been
> asking him to remove this page, and put the link to the project lists
> http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList
> 
> And this since the 4th October without any kind of answer from his
> side, see
> http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9038
> 
> Notice that the original message on  
> http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html said 
> 
> "Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a 
> DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu en:"
> 
> last time I checked this, on Sunday. 
> Now the message has changed to
> 
> "Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OOoES. Favor de 
> registrarte aqu en:"
> 
> but anyway this is not like 
> http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList
> and it seems he is still trying to collect OOo user's mails using OOo 
> resources to migrate them when there is an ES LO mailing list, as
> said in his original message:
> 
> "facilitar la migracion a DocumentFoundation asociandote a nuestra
> newsletter para poder mantener tu correo y contactarte con el nuevo
> correo que posiblemente haya en DocumentFoundation en Espanol."
> 
> 
> Besides this, I find very un-ethical that 
> 
> * while he unilaterally  took the decision to put the message on  
> http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html 
> 
> * he is still being Co-Lead of http://es.openoffice.org
> Co-Lead of http://education.openoffice.org
> Project Lead of http://certification.openoffice.org/
> 
> * he is evidently promoting LO/TDF, see
> http://www.slideshare.net/jza/10-aos-de-openofficeorg
> and his obvious invitation orignally on  
> http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html (not the one you can
> read today)
> 
> I find very un-ethical that he sees no COI at all, and still tries to
> travel using OOo reources 
> http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=31039
> But this discussion is for another thread...
> 
> 
> Regards



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