On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Charles-H. Schulz < charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote:
> Hello everyone, > > I think this mail will prove that we can have sometimes no conflict of > interest. Wearing my hat of the Document Foundation, I'd like to state > the following things: > - Everyone, yes, everyone is welcome to join the LibreOffice Project > and the Document Foundation. > - We, the Document Foundation, have not asked to Alexandro Colorado to > put that message on any web page of the OOo ES project. > - He and the ES community are welcome to join us, but it is by > leaving contributors free to choose their own path and not by forcing > them that we work. We believe in freedom, not constraint, and do not > wish to see confusion taking place. > > Wearing my OOo NLC hat: > - unilateral actions depriving contributors of the > most elementary tools of communication are a very bad thing. While > I'm sure some people may disagree, debates and discussions are good, > not constraint, one cannot just shut up mailing lists out of the > blue. I would like to ask Alexandro, if that's possible to reinstate > the mailing lists and their archive. > We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. But to say that we were shutting down the lists, well the lists are still running and can still be consulted openly. > > Thank you, > > Charles-H. Schulz. > > > Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:57:53 -0300, > Ariel Constenla-Haile <ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com> a écrit : > > > Hello Louis, > > > > On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 01:36, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > I just learned of this site on the ES project and would > > > respectfully ask the lead of the project—Alexandro—to remove it, as > > > it would seem to only instil confusion in the community, and to me > > > is a transgressive use—a misuse—of OpenOffice.org resources. > > > > > > > > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html > > > > me and other members of the Spanish-speaking community have been > > asking him to remove this page, and put the link to the project lists > > http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList > > > > And this since the 4th October without any kind of answer from his > > side, see > > http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9038 > > > > Notice that the original message on > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html said > > > > "Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a > > DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu en:" > > > > last time I checked this, on Sunday. > > Now the message has changed to > > > > "Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OOoES. Favor de > > registrarte aqu en:" > > > > but anyway this is not like > > http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList > > and it seems he is still trying to collect OOo user's mails using OOo > > resources to migrate them when there is an ES LO mailing list, as > > said in his original message: > > > > "facilitar la migracion a DocumentFoundation asociandote a nuestra > > newsletter para poder mantener tu correo y contactarte con el nuevo > > correo que posiblemente haya en DocumentFoundation en Espanol." > > > > > > Besides this, I find very un-ethical that > > > > * while he unilaterally took the decision to put the message on > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html > > > > * he is still being Co-Lead of http://es.openoffice.org > > Co-Lead of http://education.openoffice.org > > Project Lead of http://certification.openoffice.org/ > > > > * he is evidently promoting LO/TDF, see > > http://www.slideshare.net/jza/10-aos-de-openofficeorg > > and his obvious invitation orignally on > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html (not the one you can > > read today) > > > > I find very un-ethical that he sees no COI at all, and still tries to > > travel using OOo reources > > http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=31039 > > But this discussion is for another thread... > > > > > > Regards > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
