I don't see that as a requirement. In the same way as the experimental
installer we have right now, we could create an installer for this which,
if no JRE is present, a message would appear that it needs to be obtained
from some specific place -- what that place is is the question.

Gj

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:53 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well,
>
> I do not know how dead JRE is, however this distro would have only
> meaningful if we can actually pack the JRE along the code and yes
> probably installable with a proper installer.
>
> I could probably make a Snap for such a distro for Linux without too
> much hustle, though I do not think I legally ship/distribute it as
> Apache NetBeans. Or maybe as it would be an unofficial convenience
> binary which would not be hosted on Apache infra...
>
> I do not really know.
>
> On 4/20/19 1:12 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > at this point in time I don't see any benefit in producing a bunch of
> > different netbeans releases.
> >
> > Am Freitag, den 19.04.2019, 21:57 -0400 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> >> I think one of the coolest things we could do together is spin out a
> >> separate distro specifically for PHP/JS type developers.
> > what is the use case of that special distribution?
> >
> >> We had that before, it only requires JRE, not JDK, and would mean the
> >> potential for a small snappy editor-focused tool (that as a side effect
> >> could be interesting for users of a few comparable editors we can all
> think
> >> of).
> > The JRE is dead (for any Java version >= 9), at least that is what
> > every java vendor is telling. You can either get a JDK from Azul or Red
> > Hat and/or Amazon or stay in the past with JRE derived from JDK 8.
> >
> > If we could build a fully runnable NetBeans for people not interested
> > in Java, ok, but neigther the ASF, nor Oracle do anything visible to
> > resolve the big problem in the room:
> >
> > GPLv2+CPE at this time is not acceptable as a dependency for the ASF at
> > this time (there is an open issue, that asks for moving GPLv2+CPE to
> > Category B, but the ASF side raised concers and noone stood up to calm
> > them.
> >
> > I don't think, that random comments will help here:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-336
> >
> > But comments from lawyers, preferable from oracle, could help to
> > resolve this. Mayber it would be possible to reword the CPE to make it
> > compatible with the ASFs requirements for dependencies.
> >
> > That would help _many_ apache projects, as many apache projects are
> > Java projects and so implicitly depend on OpenJDK (if I'm not mistaken
> > there is _no_ other open source Java distribution out there, that is
> > even remotely as up-to-date and open as OpenJDK).
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
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