Is this true when running gradle as well?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:22 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Re: kotlin plugin

Anything you can do in Maven you can do in NetBeans. NetBeans is simply a 
wrapper around the Maven command line.

Gj


On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 14:10, Mike Billman <mikebill...@qcsoftware.com>
wrote:

> To piggy back discussion...
>
> I noticed there is syntax highlighting in kotlin.  Is kotlin supported 
> with respect to NB recognizing the kotlin classes.  That is, if I 
> write some kotlin classes in
>
> com.qcsoftware.testproject.kt
>
> and some java classes in
>
> com.qcsoftware.testproject
>
> should I be able to import them and everything?
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:44 AM
> To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: kotlin plugin
>
> I can't answer all your questions, Jan Lahoda, who is working on this 
> area can tell you more, but note in general that LSP integration 
> doesn't -- and can't -- provide everything you need out of the box, 
> e.g., no syntax coloring at this point, this is the closest to it:
>
> https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-languageserver-node/pull/367
>
> I.e., a variety of things need to be 'configured on the client side', 
> which is a nice way of saying -- 'good luck buddy, create a plugin in 
> your tool if you want to make use of this feature'.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:58 AM Jonathan Bergh 
> <bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Geertjan,
> >
> > OK, no problem. Thanks for the guidance on that.
> >
> > A second question then:
> > 1) Is there much point in supporting new languages using the 'old'
> > method of writing nb modules, or is the best approach for the future 
> > to focus on LSP integration?
> > 2) Where is the LSP which was used for the Kotlin example published 
> > to Twitter. Was that a NB effort? Is the idea that NB would simply 
> > use existing language servers from around the community (and support 
> > the client side - i found the LSP client code in the repo already)?
> > 3) Is the approach that NB would bundle LSP servers or these would 
> > be installed by the user at runtime? Or is this still to be decided?
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance,
> > Regards
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:02 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> > <geert...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I wouldn't count on this happening soon, nor worry too much about 
> > > it. It will come, as all good things, in due course and when the 
> > > time
> is right.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:59 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry meant for the list.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:57 AM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Based on the corespondence at the time sound like there might 
> > > > > be some dependency technical issues to be ironed out.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201904.mbox/%3
> > cc eb873b7-f211-cc0f-fc07-826eb28ce...@gmail.com%3e
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Bresie
> > > > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On July 18, 2019 at 4:07:30 AM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > geert...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > I don't know and let's leave it for the moment now.
> > > > >
> > > > > They've committed to donating the code, they know how to do 
> > > > > so, they
> > > > don't
> > > > > need anyone to do that other than themselves, and it's 
> > > > > obviously and understandably not a very high priority.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM Jonathan Bergh <
> > > > bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > HI Geertjan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, i have done so
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Do you think its worthwhile asking folks on
> > > us...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > > > to
> > > > > do the same?
> > > > > 2) I know you have indicated several times in your comments 
> > > > > from the Apache side that a PR is all that is needed, but from 
> > > > > his comment "We'd be
> > > happy
> > > > > to donate the plugin. I've replied to an email from Laszlo 
> > > > > with some
> > > more
> > > > > details.", was there anything specific that they (Jetbrains)
> > discussed
> > > > > which might be preventing them from being willing to action 
> > > > > this from their side? Why does he seem adamant that they are 
> > > > > waiting for something
> > from
> > > > > Apache?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geert...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes -- please also leave your comments in that issue to urge
> > JetBrains
> > > to
> > > > > donate their code to Apache. It's not a big deal, hundreds (if 
> > > > > not
> > > more)
> > > > > companies have done so already and JetBrains can do so too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:34 AM Jonathan Bergh <
> > > > >
> > > > > bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks Geertjan,
> > > > >
> > > > > yes, i see your new comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > apart from bumping / commenting on the same thread, do you 
> > > > > think
> > there
> > > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > anything else we can do as a community to get this ball 
> > > > > rolling
> > > > >
> > > > > properly?
> > > > >
> > > > > for whatever reason, it seems pretty strange the code is not 
> > > > > being
> > > > >
> > > > > released
> > > > >
> > > > > when all it takes is a PR (and they have said they are happy 
> > > > > to
> > release
> > > > > it)?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:12 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > >
> > > > > geert...@apache.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see the new comment I added in the issue you 
> > > > > referenced,
> > > > >
> > > > > today:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:38 PM Jonathan Bergh <
> > > > >
> > > > > bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was just wondering what happened with the donation of the 
> > > > > Kotlin
> > > > >
> > > > > plugin
> > > > >
> > > > > to the Apache Netbeans project - did they ever go through with
> > > > >
> > > > > this?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this still a need for Apache NB with the advent of Language
> > > > >
> > > > > Servers
> > > > >
> > > > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > on the horizon?
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to start getting acquainted with NB platform dev 
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > thought
> > > > >
> > > > > this might be worthwhile looking through. See :
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/122
> > > > > https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137
> > > > >
> > > > > for the background.
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont have huge amounts of time so i would start slowly, 
> > > > > updating
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > project to target the latest NB release (11) etc, but i'd 
> > > > > request
> > > > >
> > > > > some
> > > > >
> > > > > assistance with things like where to find the various NBM 
> > > > > artifacts
> > > > >
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One final question / point - i see lots of this plugin is 
> > > > > written
> > > > >
> > > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > kotlin
> > > > >
> > > > > itself. Would it be better to transcribe the .kt source into 
> > > > > java
> > > > >
> > > > > as
> > > > >
> > > > > part
> > > > >
> > > > > of this effort?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks a lot
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > Eric Bresie
> > > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ebresie
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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