Hi Geertjan,

OK, no problem. Thanks for the guidance on that.

A second question then:
1) Is there much point in supporting new languages using the 'old' method
of writing nb modules, or is the best approach for the future to focus on
LSP integration?
2) Where is the LSP which was used for the Kotlin example published to
Twitter. Was that a NB effort? Is the idea that NB would simply use
existing language servers from around the community (and support the client
side - i found the LSP client code in the repo already)?
3) Is the approach that NB would bundle LSP servers or these would be
installed by the user at runtime? Or is this still to be decided?

Thanks a lot in advance,
Regards
Jonathan


On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:02 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
wrote:

> I wouldn't count on this happening soon, nor worry too much about it. It
> will come, as all good things, in due course and when the time is right.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:59 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry meant for the list.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:57 AM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Based on the corespondence at the time sound like there might be some
> > > dependency technical issues to be ironed out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201904.mbox/%3cceb873b7-f211-cc0f-fc07-826eb28ce...@gmail.com%3e
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > On July 18, 2019 at 4:07:30 AM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geert...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > I don't know and let's leave it for the moment now.
> > >
> > > They've committed to donating the code, they know how to do so, they
> > don't
> > > need anyone to do that other than themselves, and it's obviously and
> > > understandably not a very high priority.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM Jonathan Bergh <
> > bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > HI Geertjan,
> > >
> > > Ok, i have done so
> > >
> > > 1) Do you think its worthwhile asking folks on
> us...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > to
> > > do the same?
> > > 2) I know you have indicated several times in your comments from the
> > > Apache
> > > side that a PR is all that is needed, but from his comment "We'd be
> happy
> > > to donate the plugin. I've replied to an email from Laszlo with some
> more
> > > details.", was there anything specific that they (Jetbrains) discussed
> > > which might be preventing them from being willing to action this from
> > > their
> > > side? Why does he seem adamant that they are waiting for something from
> > > Apache?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes -- please also leave your comments in that issue to urge JetBrains
> to
> > > donate their code to Apache. It's not a big deal, hundreds (if not
> more)
> > > companies have done so already and JetBrains can do so too.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:34 AM Jonathan Bergh <
> > >
> > > bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > thanks Geertjan,
> > >
> > > yes, i see your new comments.
> > >
> > > apart from bumping / commenting on the same thread, do you think there
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > anything else we can do as a community to get this ball rolling
> > >
> > > properly?
> > >
> > > for whatever reason, it seems pretty strange the code is not being
> > >
> > > released
> > >
> > > when all it takes is a PR (and they have said they are happy to release
> > > it)?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:12 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > >
> > > geert...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > You can see the new comment I added in the issue you referenced,
> > >
> > > today:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:38 PM Jonathan Bergh <
> > >
> > > bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was just wondering what happened with the donation of the Kotlin
> > >
> > > plugin
> > >
> > > to the Apache Netbeans project - did they ever go through with
> > >
> > > this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Is this still a need for Apache NB with the advent of Language
> > >
> > > Servers
> > >
> > > etc
> > >
> > > on the horizon?
> > >
> > > I would like to start getting acquainted with NB platform dev and
> > >
> > > thought
> > >
> > > this might be worthwhile looking through. See :
> > >
> > > https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/122
> > > https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137
> > >
> > > for the background.
> > >
> > > I dont have huge amounts of time so i would start slowly, updating
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > project to target the latest NB release (11) etc, but i'd request
> > >
> > > some
> > >
> > > assistance with things like where to find the various NBM artifacts
> > >
> > > etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > One final question / point - i see lots of this plugin is written
> > >
> > > in
> > >
> > > kotlin
> > >
> > > itself. Would it be better to transcribe the .kt source into java
> > >
> > > as
> > >
> > > part
> > >
> > > of this effort?
> > >
> > > thanks a lot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > Eric Bresie
> > ebre...@gmail.com
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ebresie
> >
>

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