This be something I could put in a ticket for an enhancement for?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:40 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: kotlin plugin

The Gradle plugin does not recognize kotlin based build files right now.

On 7/23/19 10:25 AM, Mike Billman wrote:
> Is this true when running gradle as well?
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:22 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Re: kotlin plugin
>
> Anything you can do in Maven you can do in NetBeans. NetBeans is simply a 
> wrapper around the Maven command line.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 14:10, Mike Billman 
> <mikebill...@qcsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> To piggy back discussion...
>>
>> I noticed there is syntax highlighting in kotlin.  Is kotlin 
>> supported with respect to NB recognizing the kotlin classes.  That 
>> is, if I write some kotlin classes in
>>
>> com.qcsoftware.testproject.kt
>>
>> and some java classes in
>>
>> com.qcsoftware.testproject
>>
>> should I be able to import them and everything?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:44 AM
>> To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Re: kotlin plugin
>>
>> I can't answer all your questions, Jan Lahoda, who is working on this 
>> area can tell you more, but note in general that LSP integration 
>> doesn't -- and can't -- provide everything you need out of the box, 
>> e.g., no syntax coloring at this point, this is the closest to it:
>>
>> https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-languageserver-node/pull/367
>>
>> I.e., a variety of things need to be 'configured on the client side', 
>> which is a nice way of saying -- 'good luck buddy, create a plugin in 
>> your tool if you want to make use of this feature'.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:58 AM Jonathan Bergh 
>> <bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geertjan,
>>>
>>> OK, no problem. Thanks for the guidance on that.
>>>
>>> A second question then:
>>> 1) Is there much point in supporting new languages using the 'old'
>>> method of writing nb modules, or is the best approach for the future 
>>> to focus on LSP integration?
>>> 2) Where is the LSP which was used for the Kotlin example published 
>>> to Twitter. Was that a NB effort? Is the idea that NB would simply 
>>> use existing language servers from around the community (and support 
>>> the client side - i found the LSP client code in the repo already)?
>>> 3) Is the approach that NB would bundle LSP servers or these would 
>>> be installed by the user at runtime? Or is this still to be decided?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot in advance,
>>> Regards
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:02 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
>>> <geert...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't count on this happening soon, nor worry too much about 
>>>> it. It will come, as all good things, in due course and when the 
>>>> time
>> is right.
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:59 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry meant for the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:57 AM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Based on the corespondence at the time sound like there might be 
>>>>>> some dependency technical issues to be ironed out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201904.mbox/%3
>>> cc eb873b7-f211-cc0f-fc07-826eb28ce...@gmail.com%3e
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric Bresie
>>>>>> ebre...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On July 18, 2019 at 4:07:30 AM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>> geert...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know and let's leave it for the moment now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They've committed to donating the code, they know how to do so, 
>>>>>> they
>>>>> don't
>>>>>> need anyone to do that other than themselves, and it's obviously 
>>>>>> and understandably not a very high priority.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM Jonathan Bergh <
>>>>> bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Geertjan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, i have done so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Do you think its worthwhile asking folks on
>>>> us...@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do the same?
>>>>>> 2) I know you have indicated several times in your comments from 
>>>>>> the Apache side that a PR is all that is needed, but from his 
>>>>>> comment "We'd be
>>>> happy
>>>>>> to donate the plugin. I've replied to an email from Laszlo with 
>>>>>> some
>>>> more
>>>>>> details.", was there anything specific that they (Jetbrains)
>>> discussed
>>>>>> which might be preventing them from being willing to action this 
>>>>>> from their side? Why does he seem adamant that they are waiting 
>>>>>> for something
>>> from
>>>>>> Apache?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>> geert...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes -- please also leave your comments in that issue to urge
>>> JetBrains
>>>> to
>>>>>> donate their code to Apache. It's not a big deal, hundreds (if 
>>>>>> not
>>>> more)
>>>>>> companies have done so already and JetBrains can do so too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:34 AM Jonathan Bergh <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks Geertjan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, i see your new comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> apart from bumping / commenting on the same thread, do you think
>>> there
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anything else we can do as a community to get this ball rolling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> properly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for whatever reason, it seems pretty strange the code is not 
>>>>>> being
>>>>>>
>>>>>> released
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when all it takes is a PR (and they have said they are happy to
>>> release
>>>>>> it)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:12 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geert...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can see the new comment I added in the issue you referenced,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> today:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:38 PM Jonathan Bergh <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bergh.jonat...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just wondering what happened with the donation of the 
>>>>>> Kotlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to the Apache Netbeans project - did they ever go through with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this still a need for Apache NB with the advent of Language
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Servers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on the horizon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to start getting acquainted with NB platform dev and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this might be worthwhile looking through. See :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/122
>>>>>> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for the background.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dont have huge amounts of time so i would start slowly, 
>>>>>> updating
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> project to target the latest NB release (11) etc, but i'd request
>>>>>>
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>
>>>>>> assistance with things like where to find the various NBM 
>>>>>> artifacts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One final question / point - i see lots of this plugin is written
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kotlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> itself. Would it be better to transcribe the .kt source into java
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> part
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of this effort?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Eric Bresie
>>>>> ebre...@gmail.com
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ebresie
>>>>>
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