> > Generally we are > too strict with our APIs outside the platform. Nobody is really building > products on top of the other clusters ...
> Speak for yourself! ;-) > Actually, if you consider plugins (like Android support), derivative IDEs (like mine) and custom distributions (like yours) these things affect lots of other projects outside of those just using the platform cluster. Well, I do speak for myself and only myself. I think having proper APIs is a guarantee of sorts the project gives users. Still, too restrictive API will make users find "creative" solutions. So by being too rigid in the absolute quality you provide will somehow make things worse overall. NetBeans is in another phase now and the whole desktop IDE/platform space is in another place in the industry. NetBeans is being much too conservative with its APIs. And, interestingly, even people that like conservative APIs get tired of it because if you are stuck on a given version you don't care how easy future migrations are (since they will not happen, really) but start caring more about the lack of customization you can do due to a too tight API surface. --emi sâm., 3 aug. 2019, 15:36 Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> a scris: > On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 12:10, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I support reproducible builds. One simple rule here is to ignore > everything > > from the build environment (date time, server name, build number, maybe > > even git info). Since only release-time versions matter we could > > hardcode/generate all these version strings and only update them as part > of > > the release process. > > If you haven't seen it, perhaps also check out the conversation in > this PR that led me to starting this thread - > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1270 > > I have some concerns that that proposal, while in the right direction, > is still doing too much in the build environment / outside of the > source tree. Be interested in your perspective. > > > Generally we are > > too strict with our APIs outside the platform. Nobody is really building > > products on top of the other clusters ... > > Speak for yourself! ;-) > > Actually, if you consider plugins (like Android support), derivative > IDEs (like mine) and custom distributions (like yours) these things > affect lots of other projects outside of those just using the platform > cluster. > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
