Regardless of LAF, it would be great to have a standardized "color-blind friendly" editor color theme available by default. Probably there would need to be one light and one dark theme.
There are a couple of different types of color blindness; I'm unsure if each of these might need a separate palette. -- Eirik -----Original Message----- From: Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com.INVALID> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 7:37 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default? One of the issues that I've had with Darkula in the past is that it's not very friendly for colorblind - color deficient people. I'm red-green color deficient. This means that reds shade towards black, and greens towards white. Pinks, oranges, and reds on dark brown backgrounds are very difficult for me to read. For example, the red highlighting of an error makes the underlying text unreadable in the Windows LAF. I have to change the default error to a light orange, or some other color. In the past I've used Nimbus LAF across all platforms with reasonable results. This gave pretty ugly results recently, but now that I'm OpenJDK 11.04, things seem to have cleared up. I'll upgrade to 11.06 and verify again. I'll have to take a look at the various Flat Look and Feel themes to see if they're usable for color deficient people. Otherwise, I'll use the Windows LAF on Windows, and Nimbus everywhere else. . . . just my two cents /mde/ On 1/22/2020 2:09 PM, Eirik Bakke wrote: > I think FlatLAF could very well be made the default on Linux. But on Windows > and MacOS, I'd argue we should use the OS-specific LAFs by default. > > On MacOS and Windows, we have very good existing LAFs that follow the > same style as other desktop applications on the same platform. So > NetBeans will look like a native MacOS app on Mac, and like a native > Windows app on Windows. In fact, both the MacOS (Aqua) and Windows > LAFs make calls to the OS to retrieve real, native graphics for > buttons, combo boxes, checkboxes, and so on. So NetBeans always gets > the correct look for whichever OS version is currently running. There > has also been a lot of improvements to the Windows and MacOS LAFs over > the past few releases, and the next one, especially for HiDPI > displays. (See > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/HiDPI+%28Retina%2 > 9+improvements ) > > The fact that NetBeans looks like a native app on both Windows and MacOS is a > strong brand differentiator, compared to for instance IntelliJ, which does > not in any way try to stay consistent with the OS look. > > -- Eirik > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Mc <mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:48 PM > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: Flat Look and Feel NB12 default? > > Hi > > So I started using the latest development builds and I really like the > progress with the Flat Look and Feel addition for NB11.3. Great job to the > guys who have done all this work it really looks nice. > > Are there plans to consider making this the default LnF for NetBeans 12 > onwards? > > Regards > > John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
