Wanted to keep you all updated nb-javac for NB12.0 will be released in about 
few week's time .

regards,
Arvind
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 10:22 AM
To: Apache NetBeans <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Forced to download nb-javac even when not selected

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:48 PM Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> wrote:

> > over the past few years, the gap between NetBeans+nb-javac and
> NetBeans+recent JDK javac got much smaller
>
> That's good to hear. In particular, is there a fundamental reason why 
> Compile on Save can not be supported from the JDK javac?
>

No fundamental reason, just no one had enough time to actually write that.

Jan


> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Lahoda <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 2:12 AM
> To: Apache NetBeans <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Forced to download nb-javac even when not selected
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:10 PM Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Aside from that, for 12.0, should we downplay the usage of 
> > > nb-javac as
> > much as possible and not make it so prominently available -- we 
> > should be encouraging the usage of the latest LTS, which is 11 and not 8.
> >
> > I'm concerned that "downplaying" nb-javac will discourage us from 
> > maintaining it.
> >
>
> I guess I think we should reduce the intensity of NetBeans pushing the 
> user to download nb-javac, which I think is what Geertjan says. There 
> is a number of reasons to that - over the past few years, the gap 
> between
> NetBeans+nb-javac and NetBeans+recent JDK javac got much smaller, 
> NetBeans+having
> nb-javac is in some cases even undesirable (as NetBeans is still using 
> the JDK 13-based nb-javac, no JDK 14 language features are available, 
> AFAIK), etc. So pushing users hard to install nb-javac while they run 
> on JDK 14 does not seem very good to me. (What to do when running on 
> JDK 13 is unclear to me.)
>
> Jan
>
>
> > I understand that the JDK-based javac is the way to go in the long term.
> > But http://wiki.netbeans.org/JavacDiff lists a lot of good reasons 
> > why nb-javac had to exist, and until all of these requirements are 
> > met by the new approach, it seems dangerous to abandon nb-javac. In 
> > the short-term, the most high-quality solution would seem to be to 
> > stick with nb-javac, updating and fixing bugs in the latter while 
> > waiting for JDK-based javac to catch up feature-wise.
> >
> > What is our strategy here?
> >
> > -- Eirik
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 4:09 AM
> > To: dev <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Forced to download nb-javac even when not selected
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've encountered this one too:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4078
> >
> > i.e., I'm running NB on JDK 14, I do not select the nb-javac checkbox.
> > I click Download and Activate.
> >
> > And then I am shown that the nb-javac editing support library will 
> > be downloaded, even though I did not select it.
> >
> > Aside from that, for 12.0, should we downplay the usage of nb-javac 
> > as much as possible and not make it so prominently available -- we 
> > should be encouraging the usage of the latest LTS, which is 11 and not 8.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
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