On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 21:21 Will Hartung, <willhart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:41 AM Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > > Personally I was in favour of dropping in 12.1 when this last came up, > > but that would lead to no Java editing support on Java 8, and problems > > on 11. > > I would think dropping support for Java 8 would be a real show stopper.
Why? I'm curious about how important it is that the IDE (or precisely Java editing features) can always *run* on two LTS? And likewise, how important it is to be able to run on a JDK lower than the one you're coding for? Because being clear about how important that is seems to be essential for answering Ernie's original question of if/when we move away from nb-javac. To me, we seem to have three courses of action open at the moment - * Keep nb-javac as an important part of the Java editing infrastructure until at least next Java LTS has been out for a period of time. In which case, we need to improve it's synchronization with our release schedules - the point I was making elsewhere. * Drop full Java editing support on JDK 8 now (it still works as a text editor). Recommend running on JDK 14+, but support 11. Probably lose Compile on Save? * Keep nb-javac as legacy, and concentrate on UI changes / module enablement, so that installation is not prompted when running on JDK 14+ (part way there), and potentially that the module is disabled even when installed if run on a later JVM than nb-javac can handle? Probably lose Compile on Save when working with newer Java versions? I think Jan was also looking at running some of the editing support on the target platform JVM, but not sure where that is at at present. IMO, if that works and is feasible, it's a strong if not preferable fourth contender. They're all the options that I remember coming up - maybe there are more - thoughts? One of my first questions to Geertjan when asked to be on the NetBeans PMC was how are we going to handle nb-javac - I'm still not sure that question has been answered! :-) Best wishes, Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
