On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 09:22, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 24. listopadu 2020 8:53:19 SEČ, John Mc <mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com> napsal:
> >My main concern here and the reason for my -1 is that there seems to be
> >a
> >push for a convince binary without knowing if the main vote passes. If
> >it
> >doesn't then it's a waste of time and effort.
>
> I don't see that huge problem in running votes in parallel. The obvious 
> advantages are that there is less time wasted waiting for votes, and that if 
> a problem is found during a convenience binary vote, it can advise the main 
> vote.

+1 See also multiple discussions we already had on this during 11.2,
prior to which we hadn't really voted on binaries at all.  eg.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/52cb91e35bb268e32c353cafef917f9e8bf304e420e3ff08ababe707%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
 The intention then was always to have parallel voting wherever
possible, the discussion was more about whether to have one thread or
multiple.

The only reason we didn't have parallel votes for installers for 12.1
was delay caused by macOS issues (again!) which John sorted, and
problems I had with accessing ASF signing via new computer for the
Windows installer.  Those sort of things happen, but are not a good
reason in my opinion to make it a "NetBeans project habit", hence my
first reply! :-)

> >Im also struggling with why this new sub project seems to be pushing
> >forward and not liasing with the NetBeans RM for this release. Why are
> >they
> >pushing a separate timetable?  Surely the creation of a timetable for
>
> Not sure if there is a separate timetable - the source release will be done 
> first, and then the other/secondary convenience binaries, including this one. 
> So it seems like a single timetable?

+1, although agree with John that it sounds like this might have been
better coordinated with Laszlo as RM.

Best wishes,

Neil

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