+1 to Geertjan words. I am particulary concerned about:
"CD30 The code can be built in a reproducible way using widely available standard tools."
We of course can build NetBeans using "widely available standard tools" (Apache Ant).
But I am not sure the build is reproducible if the binaries required to build cannot be downloaded from hg.netbeans.org/binaries. For an example see this thread [1] from yesterday.
We have made an effort to download binaries from elsewhere after the first donation, mainly maven repositories, but I think we're not fully independent of hg.netbeans.org as of yet. There's work to do here, IMHO.
Cheers, Antonio [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201809.mbox/%3Cd1cefd04-0be6-1ed9-301a-8a6ba8afb2ed%40kolabnow.com%3E On 22/09/18 14:44, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
It's good to hear these positive signals from the Apache NetBeans mentors, many thanks. It is truly a reflection as well of the support that the mentors and the Apache infrastructure as a whole have given Apache NetBeans -- and, bear in mind, all of it for free. Really, unbelievable, when you think about it. I think it would be best to wait until we have done/figured out the following, in no particular order: 1. all our domains (netbeans.org, planetnetbeans.org, etc) running via Apache infrastructure: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16946 2. all documentation, i.e., tutorials, etc, moved onto Apache infrastructure (coming with 3rd donation, in progress) 3. a clear direction for the location of plugins.netbeans.org 4. NetBeans javadoc running on Apache infrastructure: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1176 5. a solution to the installer question -- i.e., once we figure out how to create installers for all operating systems, figure out how they can be distributed I.e., I don't see how NetBeans can be a top level Apache project while the above items have not yet been resolved for one reason or another. The message we'd be sending is that Apache NetBeans provides significantly less services to its users than Oracle/Sun NetBeans did. Gj On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> wrote:+1, community is big enough and self government works reasonably well. The best part is that lots of people already developed a sense about what might potentially be not ok for the ASF. LieGrue,strub On Thursday, 20 September 2018, 11:43:46 CEST, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: Hi Netbeans mentors + PPMC. I feel that NetBeans is getting ready to graduate, and would welcome other opinions on this (either here or on the private@ list if really needed), especially from mentors. I think there are more donations upcoming but as the NetBeans PPMC has demonstrated it knows how to handle those I don't think they are an obstacle to graduating, also as the trademarks transfer is complete or about to be completed. For the PPMC, one useful step towards that is creating a self-assessment based on https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html . The "How To Use" sections links to examples. Could someone from the PPMC take the lead on that? This can happen in parallel with graduation discussions. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
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