So, that bring us back to the question of bundling. Imagine Amazon or Oracle, for example, would want to bundle the Apache NetBeans binaries with their JDK.
Does that mean that they cannot use the name 'Apache NetBeans'? To some extent, that would not be a problem, I guess, since the most likely scenario is that Amazon or Oracle would first add a few plugins of their own (i.e., some kind of AWS connector etc) and only then would they bundle the binary with their JDK. At that point, they'd have their own distribution of Apache NetBeans and they'd call it something different anyway, i.e., they wouldn't want to call it Apache NetBeans, they'd call it 'Corretto SDK' or something like that. But, in any case, if they were to want to call it Apache NetBeans, they would not be able to do so. Gj On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 12:07 PM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's good. The thing about trademarks is not only that we must > announce it, we must also defend it. > > So we must also keep an eye on all the projects popping up that use > the NetBeans trademarks (text and logo). > > --emi > > http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 9:42 AM Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We now say, at the bottom of each web page, that > > > > "Apache Incubator, Apache, Apache NetBeans, NetBeans, the Apache feather > > logo, the Apache NetBeans logo, and the Apache Incubator project logo > > are trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation." > > > > Any comments/enhancements welcome. > > > > El 18/01/2019 a las 12:02, Jan Lahoda escribió: > > > FWIW, there's a discussion on legal-discuss that is, I think, related > to > > > this thread: > > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201901.mbox/%3CCAK1xzDeKTOEpKED3PzTLuKkbtRi5ubv5AijcB%3DDvzo8PO0jU4w%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > And there's a link in that thread that may be somewhat relevant as > well: > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-427?focusedCommentId=16722198&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16722198 > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:54 PM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> Note that the Apache link is about trademarks. It makes no difference > if > > >> it's a convenience binary if the trademark is being (mis)used. It > could > > >> just be the name or logo. > > >> > > >> --emi > > >> > > >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 16:32, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:44 PM Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> ...Frankly, I wonder if there's a chance to allow some "good" uses, > > >> like > > >>> "X > > >>>> with Apache NetBeans N" or a "Bundle of X and Apache NetBeans N", > > >>> provided > > >>>> some basic conditions are met,... > > >>> > > >>> Of course that's possible, as Geertjan says the NetBeans (P)PMC just > > >> needs > > >>> to clarify how things have to be named, to avoid confusion and > especially > > >>> as you say make it crystal clear what comes from Apache NetBeans and > what > > >>> does not. > > >>> > > >>>> ...this would > > >>>> be distributing an official release of NetBeans, just packed > together > > >>> with > > >>>> something else.... > > >>> > > >>> If it's binaries then no, it is not distributing an official release > > >>> because releases consist only of source code. > > >>> > > >>> It's redistributing a convenience binary...I think we need to > clarify at > > >>> the Apache level this difference, I recently proposed a two-level > view on > > >>> releases and convenience binaries [1] which has not made its way to > our > > >>> official docs yet but should help understand. > > >>> > > >>> -Bertrand > > >>> > > >>> [1] > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/01a64394c3996406d98904256ebdd46667bf73947983722e7ab57f50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > >>> > > >> -- > > >> --emi > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
