Note that the Apache link is about trademarks. It makes no difference if it's a convenience binary if the trademark is being (mis)used. It could just be the name or logo.
--emi On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 16:32, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:44 PM Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ...Frankly, I wonder if there's a chance to allow some "good" uses, like > "X > > with Apache NetBeans N" or a "Bundle of X and Apache NetBeans N", > provided > > some basic conditions are met,... > > Of course that's possible, as Geertjan says the NetBeans (P)PMC just needs > to clarify how things have to be named, to avoid confusion and especially > as you say make it crystal clear what comes from Apache NetBeans and what > does not. > > > ...this would > > be distributing an official release of NetBeans, just packed together > with > > something else.... > > If it's binaries then no, it is not distributing an official release > because releases consist only of source code. > > It's redistributing a convenience binary...I think we need to clarify at > the Apache level this difference, I recently proposed a two-level view on > releases and convenience binaries [1] which has not made its way to our > official docs yet but should help understand. > > -Bertrand > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/01a64394c3996406d98904256ebdd46667bf73947983722e7ab57f50@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > -- --emi