On 18/02/2019 17.54, Eric Barboni wrote:
Hi,

On the coordinate, I thought that we were allowed to keep org.netbeans as we 
have done some release on org.netbeans.html for html4j.

The usage of org.netbeans for html4j was primarily (only) OK to provide
transitional compatibility with existing usages.
For new usages like these however we should always use the org.apache.
prefix.
I see Jaroslav also replied and agrees with this.

And for future new major releases for html4j (e.g. when it then can
assume to be backwards incompatible) it also should seriously consider
or anticipate to (then) start using the org.apache. prefix as well.

We ask infra to have the right to publish on this coordinate.
org(.apache).netbeans:parent:1 can make a better coordinate than 
org(.apache).netbeans.maven:netbeans-parent:1.

I personally prefer org.apache because it show better that we are in apache 
than guessing that org.netbeans is part of apache. (I'm not qiute sure of the 
ownership)
The org.netbeans domain has been transferred to the ASF, so ownership no
longer is an issue, but branding/marking the code and artifacts should
use/follow the org.apache. prefix convention for as much as feasible.
Including for Java package naming (for new/future features).


For the mailing list, I would say ok but we are still incubating would this be 
ok ?
Keep using the current dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org is fine too. Updating and releasing a new project parent pom is easy though, and
likely desired/needed anyway for other changes like names, description.
So ignore/forget my suggestion, better stick with the current incubator
mailing lists.

To make sure we're aligned on this:
I'm going to vote -1 on the current release candidate on general@, with
the remark that this already has been discussed here, and that we
(Eric?) will follow up with cancelling the current vote and a new
release candidate will be prepared using the org.apache.netbeans Maven
groupId instead.

Agreed?
Ate


Regards
Eric

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>
Envoyé : lundi 18 février 2019 16:56
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0

Sorry for the (too) late response, but I only just now noticed this vote, and 
the currently running subsequent vote on general@.

However I have some objections to the proposed parent pom with respect to the 
used maven coordinates, which make me inclined to vote -1 on the vote at 
general@, but first want to run it by you all here.

This *new* maven artifact is using Maven groupId: org.netbeans.maven.
Which IMO can and should at least use the org.apache.netbeans prefix.
There is no existing usage, yet, so *not* using the org.apache. prefix as 
expected seems weird and wrong to me.

In addition, I don't see why the .maven postfix would be needed: this is a, by 
definition, maven specific groupId, so why not just use org.apache.netbeans 
instead?

My vote would become +1 when using at least the org.apache.netbeans prefix.

Another improvement suggestion is to drop the .incubator. infix for the mailing 
lists, e.g. instead of:
    dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
use
    d...@netbeans.apache.org
which AFAIK already is valid / used.

Thoughts?

Ate

On 04/02/2019 11.34, Eric Barboni wrote:
The vote end with the following result:

There is 4 +1 vote
Details:
   3 +1 vote (in ppmc)
    Emilian Bold, Antonio Vieiro,Eric Barboni
    1 +1 vote (not in ppmc)
Jose Ch

There is no 0
There is no -1

Thanks for voting
I will create a IMPC voting thread soon.

Regards
Eric

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org>
Envoyé : mercredi 30 janvier 2019 16:25 À :
dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : [VOTE] Release Apache
NetBeans parent pom 1.0

Dear members of the Apache Netbeans community.

In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans maven Artefacts
(RELEASE100 and RELEASE090)  as well as Apache Netbeans mavenutilities
(incubating) such as nbm-maven-plugin:

I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating) maven
parent version 1.

This is a maven pom containing the basic information needed like
mailing list, licence.

The release is staged at the following place:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubator-ne
tbeans
-mavenutils/netbeans-parent/

Staged maven repository exists at the following url:

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1
007/

Vote open for at least 72 hours.

[ ] +1

[ ] +0

[ ] -1

Best Regards

Eric

PS: this will not impact Apache NetBeans 11.0 release.



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