Hi Eric,
First of all, yes: we (PPMC) should (must) vote on our releases first.
This is what incubation is about: learning and especially demonstrating
to the IPMC we are getting ready to stand on its own feet.
Looking at the new candidate in more detail, the pom.xml looks good to
me, so +1
The NOTICE file copies/retains the two attributions for Oracle as both
donator and copyright holder of the original 'code'.
Which IMO for *this* artifact is not correct and thus should be removed.
A trivial nit (not critical), maybe it is feasible to also name the
source folder *within* the source distribution apache-netbeans-parent-1,
so with the apache- prefix?
Last but not least: the previous vote for the parent pom release
candidate was missing a few meaningful bits:
- a direct link to the source distribution (zip) file, and the sha256
hash value for it
- a git commit/tag reference for the release
Please add those for the next vote.
Regards,
Ate
On 19/02/2019 18.29, Eric Barboni wrote:
Hi,
I have prepared the artefacts on dist[1] and on staging zone[2] according to
the remarks. Can we ask vote @general or should revote ppmc first ?
Regards
Eric
[1]https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-mavenutils/netbeans-parent/
[2]https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1008/org/apache/netbeans/netbeans-parent/1/
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De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>
Envoyé : mardi 19 février 2019 11:57
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0
On 19/02/2019 11.24, Eric Barboni wrote:
Hi
I will changes the description too.
I would keep the NOTICE file copyright 2017-2018 as the future artefacts for RELEASE90 and RELEASE100 will be delivered with NOTICE copyright 2017-2018.
But maybe this is overkill
I suggest not to bother with that.
The copyright year in a NOTICE file serves only a legal purpose, and is/should
be totally irrelevant from technical perspective.
I would just stick to the default/standard thing and use 2017-2019 instead of
doing things unexpectedly different, which then causes new questions (like
already happened on general@).
Just my 2c
Ate
Regards
Eric
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De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>
Envoyé : mardi 19 février 2019 10:35
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0
On 19/02/2019 09.53, Eric Barboni wrote:
Hi,
It's ok for me. I hope that others part of the pom are correct. I will
prepare a new parent.
I gave my -1 to the vote on general@, mentioning we'll come back with a new
release candidate with the proper Maven groupId.
After again checking the other parts of the pom its seems otherwise
fine by me. Only other suggestion I have is considering changing
<description>
Apache NetBeans (incubating) is an integrated development environment.
</description>
to
<description>
Apache NetBeans (incubating) is an integrated development environment,
tooling platform, and application framework.
</description>
as that is more inclusive for all the netbeans 'features', and also used as
description on the NetBeans Incubator status page [1].
Somehow I don't see this mentioned/used anywhere on the current
netbeans.apache.org website though.
Nor any other description of what NetBeans is, which seems odd...
[1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html
I will also refactor the mavenutilities to follow the rules (package were
from codehaus and need change anyway, and coordinate).
For the Apache NetBeans artefacts, RELEASE90,RELEASE100 as they will be
served by maven central instead of bits.netbeans.org/maven2 it may also be the
time to change the group id.
The fact that RELEASE90, and RELEASE100 are also not as complete
as
RELEASE82 by the fact that code donation is done in phase is "kind"
of backward incompatible, and it can be also nice to make transition
a bit burden for user of mavenized items
Best Regards
Eric
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De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>
Envoyé : lundi 18 février 2019 21:32
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE]
Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0
On 18/02/2019 17.54, Eric Barboni wrote:
Hi,
On the coordinate, I thought that we were allowed to keep org.netbeans as we
have done some release on org.netbeans.html for html4j.
The usage of org.netbeans for html4j was primarily (only) OK to provide
transitional compatibility with existing usages.
For new usages like these however we should always use the org.apache.
prefix.
I see Jaroslav also replied and agrees with this.
And for future new major releases for html4j (e.g. when it then can assume to
be backwards incompatible) it also should seriously consider or anticipate to
(then) start using the org.apache. prefix as well.
We ask infra to have the right to publish on this coordinate.
org(.apache).netbeans:parent:1 can make a better coordinate than
org(.apache).netbeans.maven:netbeans-parent:1.
I personally prefer org.apache because it show better that we are in
apache than guessing that org.netbeans is part of apache. (I'm not
qiute sure of the ownership)
The org.netbeans domain has been transferred to the ASF, so ownership no longer
is an issue, but branding/marking the code and artifacts should use/follow the
org.apache. prefix convention for as much as feasible.
Including for Java package naming (for new/future features).
For the mailing list, I would say ok but we are still incubating would this be
ok ?
Keep using the current dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org is fine too.
Updating and releasing a new project parent pom is easy though, and likely
desired/needed anyway for other changes like names, description.
So ignore/forget my suggestion, better stick with the current incubator mailing
lists.
To make sure we're aligned on this:
I'm going to vote -1 on the current release candidate on general@,
with the remark that this already has been discussed here, and that
we
(Eric?) will follow up with cancelling the current vote and a new release
candidate will be prepared using the org.apache.netbeans Maven groupId instead.
Agreed?
Ate
Regards
Eric
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De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu>
Envoyé : lundi 18 février 2019 16:56 À :
dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release
Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0
Sorry for the (too) late response, but I only just now noticed this vote, and
the currently running subsequent vote on general@.
However I have some objections to the proposed parent pom with respect to the
used maven coordinates, which make me inclined to vote -1 on the vote at
general@, but first want to run it by you all here.
This *new* maven artifact is using Maven groupId: org.netbeans.maven.
Which IMO can and should at least use the org.apache.netbeans prefix.
There is no existing usage, yet, so *not* using the org.apache. prefix as
expected seems weird and wrong to me.
In addition, I don't see why the .maven postfix would be needed: this is a, by
definition, maven specific groupId, so why not just use org.apache.netbeans
instead?
My vote would become +1 when using at least the org.apache.netbeans prefix.
Another improvement suggestion is to drop the .incubator. infix for the mailing
lists, e.g. instead of:
dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org use
d...@netbeans.apache.org
which AFAIK already is valid / used.
Thoughts?
Ate
On 04/02/2019 11.34, Eric Barboni wrote:
The vote end with the following result:
There is 4 +1 vote
Details:
3 +1 vote (in ppmc)
Emilian Bold, Antonio Vieiro,Eric Barboni
1 +1 vote (not in ppmc)
Jose Ch
There is no 0
There is no -1
Thanks for voting
I will create a IMPC voting thread soon.
Regards
Eric
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De : Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> Envoyé : mercredi 30 janvier
2019 16:25 À :
dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : [VOTE] Release Apache
NetBeans parent pom 1.0
Dear members of the Apache Netbeans community.
In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans maven Artefacts
(RELEASE100 and RELEASE090) as well as Apache Netbeans
mavenutilities
(incubating) such as nbm-maven-plugin:
I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating)
maven parent version 1.
This is a maven pom containing the basic information needed like
mailing list, licence.
The release is staged at the following place:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubator
-
n
e
tbeans
-mavenutils/netbeans-parent/
Staged maven repository exists at the following url:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbean
s
-
1
007/
Vote open for at least 72 hours.
[ ] +1
[ ] +0
[ ] -1
Best Regards
Eric
PS: this will not impact Apache NetBeans 11.0 release.
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