Will do the modifications. and then propose PPMC vote For the NOTICE it's my fault I'm thinking artifact as parent of Apache NetBeans and by the way NetBeans, but in fact it's to be seen as standalone and new element.
I do the folder update alongside a new release preparation (artefact NOTICE shortened) https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-mavenutils/apache-netbeans-parent-1/ Thanks for the advise Regards, Eric -----Message d'origine----- De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> Envoyé : mercredi 20 février 2019 09:51 À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0 Hi Eric, First of all, yes: we (PPMC) should (must) vote on our releases first. This is what incubation is about: learning and especially demonstrating to the IPMC we are getting ready to stand on its own feet. Looking at the new candidate in more detail, the pom.xml looks good to me, so +1 The NOTICE file copies/retains the two attributions for Oracle as both donator and copyright holder of the original 'code'. Which IMO for *this* artifact is not correct and thus should be removed. A trivial nit (not critical), maybe it is feasible to also name the source folder *within* the source distribution apache-netbeans-parent-1, so with the apache- prefix? Last but not least: the previous vote for the parent pom release candidate was missing a few meaningful bits: - a direct link to the source distribution (zip) file, and the sha256 hash value for it - a git commit/tag reference for the release Please add those for the next vote. Regards, Ate On 19/02/2019 18.29, Eric Barboni wrote: > Hi, > I have prepared the artefacts on dist[1] and on staging zone[2] according > to the remarks. Can we ask vote @general or should revote ppmc first ? > > Regards > Eric > > [1]https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubatin > g-netbeans-mavenutils/netbeans-parent/ > [2]https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbean > s-1008/org/apache/netbeans/netbeans-parent/1/ > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> > Envoyé : mardi 19 février 2019 11:57 > À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0 > > > > On 19/02/2019 11.24, Eric Barboni wrote: >> Hi >> I will changes the description too. >> >> I would keep the NOTICE file copyright 2017-2018 as the future artefacts >> for RELEASE90 and RELEASE100 will be delivered with NOTICE copyright >> 2017-2018. >> But maybe this is overkill > > I suggest not to bother with that. > The copyright year in a NOTICE file serves only a legal purpose, and > is/should be totally irrelevant from technical perspective. > > I would just stick to the default/standard thing and use 2017-2019 instead of > doing things unexpectedly different, which then causes new questions (like > already happened on general@). > > Just my 2c > Ate > >> >> Regards >> Eric >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> >> Envoyé : mardi 19 février 2019 10:35 >> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] >> Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0 >> >> >> >> On 19/02/2019 09.53, Eric Barboni wrote: >>> Hi, >>> It's ok for me. I hope that others part of the pom are correct. I will >>> prepare a new parent. >> >> I gave my -1 to the vote on general@, mentioning we'll come back with a new >> release candidate with the proper Maven groupId. >> >> After again checking the other parts of the pom its seems otherwise >> fine by me. Only other suggestion I have is considering changing >> >> <description> >> Apache NetBeans (incubating) is an integrated development environment. >> </description> >> >> to >> >> <description> >> Apache NetBeans (incubating) is an integrated development >> environment, tooling platform, and application framework. >> </description> >> >> as that is more inclusive for all the netbeans 'features', and also used as >> description on the NetBeans Incubator status page [1]. >> >> Somehow I don't see this mentioned/used anywhere on the current >> netbeans.apache.org website though. >> Nor any other description of what NetBeans is, which seems odd... >> >> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html >> >>> >>> I will also refactor the mavenutilities to follow the rules (package >>> were from codehaus and need change anyway, and coordinate). >>> >>> For the Apache NetBeans artefacts, RELEASE90,RELEASE100 as they will be >>> served by maven central instead of bits.netbeans.org/maven2 it may also be >>> the time to change the group id. >>> The fact that RELEASE90, and RELEASE100 are also not as complete >>> as >>> RELEASE82 by the fact that code donation is done in phase is "kind" >>> of backward incompatible, and it can be also nice to make transition >>> a bit burden for user of mavenized items >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Eric >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> >>> Envoyé : lundi 18 février 2019 21:32 À : >>> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release >>> Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0 >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18/02/2019 17.54, Eric Barboni wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On the coordinate, I thought that we were allowed to keep org.netbeans as >>>> we have done some release on org.netbeans.html for html4j. >>> >>> The usage of org.netbeans for html4j was primarily (only) OK to provide >>> transitional compatibility with existing usages. >>> For new usages like these however we should always use the org.apache. >>> prefix. >>> I see Jaroslav also replied and agrees with this. >>> >>> And for future new major releases for html4j (e.g. when it then can assume >>> to be backwards incompatible) it also should seriously consider or >>> anticipate to (then) start using the org.apache. prefix as well. >>> >>>> We ask infra to have the right to publish on this coordinate. >>>> org(.apache).netbeans:parent:1 can make a better coordinate than >>>> org(.apache).netbeans.maven:netbeans-parent:1. >>>> >>>> I personally prefer org.apache because it show better that we are >>>> in apache than guessing that org.netbeans is part of apache. (I'm >>>> not qiute sure of the ownership) >>> The org.netbeans domain has been transferred to the ASF, so ownership no >>> longer is an issue, but branding/marking the code and artifacts should >>> use/follow the org.apache. prefix convention for as much as feasible. >>> Including for Java package naming (for new/future features). >>> >>>> >>>> For the mailing list, I would say ok but we are still incubating would >>>> this be ok ? >>> Keep using the current dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org is fine too. >>> Updating and releasing a new project parent pom is easy though, and likely >>> desired/needed anyway for other changes like names, description. >>> So ignore/forget my suggestion, better stick with the current incubator >>> mailing lists. >>> >>> To make sure we're aligned on this: >>> I'm going to vote -1 on the current release candidate on general@, >>> with the remark that this already has been discussed here, and that >>> we >>> (Eric?) will follow up with cancelling the current vote and a new release >>> candidate will be prepared using the org.apache.netbeans Maven groupId >>> instead. >>> >>> Agreed? >>> Ate >>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Message d'origine----- >>>> De : Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> >>>> Envoyé : lundi 18 février 2019 16:56 À : >>>> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : Re: [RESULT][VOTE] >>>> Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0 >>>> >>>> Sorry for the (too) late response, but I only just now noticed this vote, >>>> and the currently running subsequent vote on general@. >>>> >>>> However I have some objections to the proposed parent pom with respect to >>>> the used maven coordinates, which make me inclined to vote -1 on the vote >>>> at general@, but first want to run it by you all here. >>>> >>>> This *new* maven artifact is using Maven groupId: org.netbeans.maven. >>>> Which IMO can and should at least use the org.apache.netbeans prefix. >>>> There is no existing usage, yet, so *not* using the org.apache. prefix as >>>> expected seems weird and wrong to me. >>>> >>>> In addition, I don't see why the .maven postfix would be needed: this is >>>> a, by definition, maven specific groupId, so why not just use >>>> org.apache.netbeans instead? >>>> >>>> My vote would become +1 when using at least the org.apache.netbeans prefix. >>>> >>>> Another improvement suggestion is to drop the .incubator. infix for the >>>> mailing lists, e.g. instead of: >>>> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org use >>>> d...@netbeans.apache.org >>>> which AFAIK already is valid / used. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Ate >>>> >>>> On 04/02/2019 11.34, Eric Barboni wrote: >>>>> The vote end with the following result: >>>>> >>>>> There is 4 +1 vote >>>>> Details: >>>>> 3 +1 vote (in ppmc) >>>>> Emilian Bold, Antonio Vieiro,Eric Barboni >>>>> 1 +1 vote (not in ppmc) >>>>> Jose Ch >>>>> >>>>> There is no 0 >>>>> There is no -1 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for voting >>>>> I will create a IMPC voting thread soon. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> -----Message d'origine----- >>>>> De : Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> Envoyé : mercredi 30 janvier >>>>> 2019 16:25 À : >>>>> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : [VOTE] Release Apache >>>>> NetBeans parent pom 1.0 >>>>> >>>>> Dear members of the Apache Netbeans community. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans maven Artefacts >>>>> (RELEASE100 and RELEASE090) as well as Apache Netbeans >>>>> mavenutilities >>>>> (incubating) such as nbm-maven-plugin: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating) >>>>> maven parent version 1. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is a maven pom containing the basic information needed like >>>>> mailing list, licence. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The release is staged at the following place: >>>>> >>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubato >>>>> r >>>>> - >>>>> n >>>>> e >>>>> tbeans >>>>> -mavenutils/netbeans-parent/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Staged maven repository exists at the following url: >>>>> >>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbea >>>>> n >>>>> s >>>>> - >>>>> 1 >>>>> 007/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vote open for at least 72 hours. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [ ] +1 >>>>> >>>>> [ ] +0 >>>>> >>>>> [ ] -1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> PS: this will not impact Apache NetBeans 11.0 release. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> - >>>>> - >>>>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>> dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>> dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - 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