If we do 11.1, it would be in June, i.e., 3 months after 11.0 and 3 months
before 12.0:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

(Or we could simply call it 12.0, personally I don't mind so much about
numbers.)

It would contain whatever we have in master at the time of the release,
i.e., cut a release branch in 3 months containing whatever we have there.

It would also be a good opportunity for a brand new release manager (Eirik?
Neil? Sven?, i.e., several candidates spring to mind) to cut their teeth on
a small release, i.e., there wouldn't be heaps of new licenses, new
modules, new donations, new features. Instead, it would be a small release
-- and we could focus on fixing bugs, which is sorely needed.

Gj


On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:59 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, in order to have smaller incremental time-based releases, we have
> to work on our release process first.
>
> I think 4 releases a year is kind of doable if we have the RM capacity
> to do that (the one major, one bugfix is probably not that important
> regarding that). Right now the release process is consists of 30 steps,
> from which ~15 requires code changes in the release branch beside the
> usual cherry-picks.
>
> It is just FYI. So currently it is not a lightweight task to cut a
> release right from the master.
>
> On 3/25/19 10:23 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > I have been thinking differently about this ‘capacity’ item. In summary,
> I
> > think it will be easier to release 4 times per year than 2 times per
> year,
> > precisely because of the capacity item. Dealing with smaller incremental
> > fixed date releases will I believe simplify rather than complexify
> things.
> > Neil C Smith did a good job of helping me see this perspective at Fosdem
> > recently and I hope I summarized him correctly but this is how I have
> come
> > to see it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 18:08, Matthias Bläsing <
> mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Laszlo,
> >>
> >> Am Sonntag, den 24.03.2019, 14:29 -0700 schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi:
> >>> While we are doing the voting round, I think we need to think about
> >>> NetBeans 11.1.
> >>>
> >>> Are we planning continue do cherry-picking into the release branch for
> >>> 11.1 or do something more sophisticated? I mean 11.1 would be only some
> >>> patch release or bringing some new things as well, like I'm planning to
> >>> donate my Gradle support for Java EE projects.
> >>>
> >>> So any idea?
> >> my understanding was, that in 6 months (or whatever amount), we will
> >> release netbeans 12 with whatever was integrated into master. I think
> >> Gradle support for Java EE would fill that bill perfectly.
> >>
> >> Do we really have the capacity to release 12 and 11.1? I don't think
> >> so.
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>
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