No worries :)   My understanding (I'm 100% sure that this my understanding
is correct) is that digital signing weights the algorithm more in favour of
not displaying a warning, but the early adopters (first few people to
download) may still get the warning until a sufficient level of "trust" has
been built up.

All the best,

P

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 10:01 AM Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>
wrote:

> So signing is missing here, if I understand it correctly. Thx for the link
> Pete.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Pete Whelpton
> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2019 10:29
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Experimental installers for 11.0
>
> The smartscreen warning is mentioned in the Smartscreen wikipedia page,
> under criticism:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SmartScreen
>
> *SmartScreen Filter creates a problem for small software vendors when they
> distribute an updated version of installation or binary files over the
> internet. Whenever an updated version is released, SmartScreen responds by
> stating that the file is not commonly downloaded and can therefore install
> harmful files on your system. This can be fixed by the author digitally
> signing the distributed software. Reputation is then based not only on a
> file's hash but on the signing certificate as well. A common distribution
> method for authors to bypass SmartScreen warnings is to pack their
> installation program (for example Setup.exe) into a Z
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_(file_format)>ip-Archive and distribute
> it that way, though this can confuse non-expert users.  *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:24 AM Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I’m fine with adding this with a comment that those installer are not
> > official.
> >
> > One Issue here is, when I wanted to start the installer, Windows says
> > again this message: https://ibb.co/2Nr8Q43. This happened also for
> > NetBeans > 9. Until NetBeans 9, I didn’t have this Problem. So smth
> changed
> > in the behaviour of the NetBeans executables/binaries that Windows will
> > show this message. I already gave this info in another thread. This will
> > only happen, when I download NetBeans, fresh and new. But when I delete
> the
> > whole folder and the whole dependent directories (userdir, cache), it
> will
> > show the message again.
> >
> > Should I create a new thread?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2019 09:54
> > An: dev
> > Betreff: [DISCUSS] Experimental installers for 11.0
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Reema has put the installers created from the installer sources in her
> pull
> > request on Apache NetBeans GitHub in her repo:
> >
> >
> >
> https://github.com/rtaneja1/incubator-netbeans/tree/installer-bin-11vc4/nbbuild/installer/binaries
> >
> > She also has a process whereby the installers can be generated as part of
> > the build.
> >
> > However, since we have not checked in the sources of the installer into
> > Apache NetBeans GitHub and we have not included these convenience
> binaries
> > as part of the vote threads, the installers above can not be seen as
> > official Apache NetBeans installers -- though that should be the aim for
> > the next releases.
> >
> > However, as discussed in other threads some time ago, there's nothing
> wrong
> > with explicitly linking to the above on the page below so long as we
> clear
> > state that these are not official Apache NetBeans installers, though that
> > they should be seen as experimental installers for the next release:
> >
> > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html
> >
> > Do we agree with this? Interested in responses and if everything is
> > favorable and no objections, will add the info as described above to the
> > page above in 24 hours.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
>
>

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