OK, added info about the installers as a tip on the Download page: https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html
Gj On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 12:34 PM <reema.tan...@oracle.com> wrote: > Hi, I will not be merging this branch to master, it is pushed to my > fork only for hosting the binaries temporarily. > > Thanks, > > Reema > > > On 05/04/19 3:28 PM, Tushar Joshi wrote: > > I can see the binary files are committed and pushed to a code branch on > > github fork of NetBeans. > > In my opinion this is an anti-pattern and binary files shall not be > > committed to code repository (they add to the size of the repository). > > Ideally all binaries coming out of build process shall be part of the > > release (separate functionality tab) created on Github. > > > > I believe when the installer creation code is pushed to the repository as > > Geertjan mentions, then all these binary files will be available to be > > added to the release section of NetBeans. > > > > with regards > > Tushar > > > > Tushar Joshi, Nagpur: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tusharjoshi.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=LWIwiyJ66DCmVEzClLgf0JE3GY3XqfSUDBCwUe-lYRg&e= > > > > * MCSD_NET C#, SCJP, RHCE, ZCE, PMP, CSM, SAFe, PRINCE2 > > > > * Senior Architect @ Persistent Systems > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.persistent.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=cZZSndo6gLHyD4OpmoZNIx_C-p-1G7L0nLh6I2xFbVE&e= > > * LinkedIn: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_tusharvjoshi&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=bReg2Ns0SUJybcSZSh5Ufg1nrMNqGNGDFGiYhXzO8KQ&e= > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 2:38 PM Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Yes sure, I only wanted to say, that smth changed/smth is missing from > >> using NetBeans > 9. So there where no problems with the old oracle > NetBeans > >> until 8.2 (Maybe they where signed correctly) and no problems with > NetBeans > >> 9. It started happening with NetBeans 10. But to end my discussion, I > will > >> create a ticket or a new thread about that problem. > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> Von: Pete Whelpton > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2019 11:05 > >> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Experimental installers for 11.0 > >> > >> No worries :) My understanding (I'm 100% sure that this my > understanding > >> is correct) is that digital signing weights the algorithm more in > favour of > >> not displaying a warning, but the early adopters (first few people to > >> download) may still get the warning until a sufficient level of "trust" > has > >> been built up. > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> P > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 10:01 AM Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> So signing is missing here, if I understand it correctly. Thx for the > >> link > >>> Pete. > >>> > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Von: Pete Whelpton > >>> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2019 10:29 > >>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Experimental installers for 11.0 > >>> > >>> The smartscreen warning is mentioned in the Smartscreen wikipedia page, > >>> under criticism: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Microsoft-5FSmartScreen&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=o5yargrRqPHPRiMpiV4zB8vTPiFFnnkkgSsSvRXcNUA&e= > >>> > >>> *SmartScreen Filter creates a problem for small software vendors when > >> they > >>> distribute an updated version of installation or binary files over the > >>> internet. Whenever an updated version is released, SmartScreen responds > >> by > >>> stating that the file is not commonly downloaded and can therefore > >> install > >>> harmful files on your system. This can be fixed by the author digitally > >>> signing the distributed software. Reputation is then based not only on > a > >>> file's hash but on the signing certificate as well. A common > distribution > >>> method for authors to bypass SmartScreen warnings is to pack their > >>> installation program (for example Setup.exe) into a Z > >>> < > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Zip-5F-28file-5Fformat-29&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=VUBTL_tboI-QXfVwyop7feza-DTeoRaWFgK0suEh-a8&e=>ip-Archive > and > >> distribute > >>> it that way, though this can confuse non-expert users. * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:24 AM Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I’m fine with adding this with a comment that those installer are not > >>>> official. > >>>> > >>>> One Issue here is, when I wanted to start the installer, Windows says > >>>> again this message: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ibb.co_2Nr8Q43&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=D90WfYDjxYKC1SLLapbvOtmdbxSw7KspPsU6_UKwNjg&e=. > This happened also for > >>>> NetBeans > 9. Until NetBeans 9, I didn’t have this Problem. So smth > >>> changed > >>>> in the behaviour of the NetBeans executables/binaries that Windows > will > >>>> show this message. I already gave this info in another thread. This > >> will > >>>> only happen, when I download NetBeans, fresh and new. But when I > delete > >>> the > >>>> whole folder and the whole dependent directories (userdir, cache), it > >>> will > >>>> show the message again. > >>>> > >>>> Should I create a new thread? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> > >>>> Chris > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Von: Geertjan Wielenga > >>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2019 09:54 > >>>> An: dev > >>>> Betreff: [DISCUSS] Experimental installers for 11.0 > >>>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> Reema has put the installers created from the installer sources in her > >>> pull > >>>> request on Apache NetBeans GitHub in her repo: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_rtaneja1_incubator-2Dnetbeans_tree_installer-2Dbin-2D11vc4_nbbuild_installer_binaries&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=8jdHUgD8Ec7QXH_Mk7lTcA95dy8io2kXV6MIOv2hTzY&e= > >>>> She also has a process whereby the installers can be generated as part > >> of > >>>> the build. > >>>> > >>>> However, since we have not checked in the sources of the installer > into > >>>> Apache NetBeans GitHub and we have not included these convenience > >>> binaries > >>>> as part of the vote threads, the installers above can not be seen as > >>>> official Apache NetBeans installers -- though that should be the aim > >> for > >>>> the next releases. > >>>> > >>>> However, as discussed in other threads some time ago, there's nothing > >>> wrong > >>>> with explicitly linking to the above on the page below so long as we > >>> clear > >>>> state that these are not official Apache NetBeans installers, though > >> that > >>>> they should be seen as experimental installers for the next release: > >>>> > >>>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.apache.org_download_nb110_nb110.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=oEcFqq0J0RBRe11dpitSUEtJ6BFdtGDWnMRoX-JB_mg&s=ts27Rd8MyT6fH1zGbhIWAc1Ki_k3HbUZUizUBQ4i36Y&e= > >>>> > >>>> Do we agree with this? Interested in responses and if everything is > >>>> favorable and no objections, will add the info as described above to > >> the > >>>> page above in 24 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Gj > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >