with the Kafka client change backed out for 0.5.0, I'm good to go with
0.4.1 on the rest of the changes.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean,
>
> Yeah i don't disagree with that point.  The caveat being it was only a
> change to that client not a change to support the new client API and
> the behavior with existing clients old and new verified.
>
> I'd prefer to stick with 0.4.1 and if you still think it is best to
> actually just revert that commit and apply it toward 0.5.0.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Can we update to 0.5.0 instead? The kafka client change isn't
>> something I'd expect in a patch release.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ok - so master is presently on 041 and it does indeed appear to be all
>>> incremental friendly fixes.  So looks like we can just use the normal
>>> process.  As excited as I was to use cherry-pick doesn't look like it
>>> is needed.
>>>
>>> The bugs fixed on 041 so far are all nice cleanup items and things
>>> which have been problematic for quite a while.  However, there are a
>>> few site-to-site issues that would create some pretty annoying issues
>>> for users so best to eliminate them.  And big thanks to Matt Clarke
>>> for finding and reporting them!
>>>
>>> Gonna prep an RC.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have no objection to "because we should be able to do this well!" as a
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Oleg Zhurakousky <
>>>> ozhurakou...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Generally RCs are used to address that level of validation, so in the end
>>>>> I still think it's a more of a culture one chooses. One common  example;
>>>>> x.x.1+ = maintenance, x.1+.0 = minor features + bugs and 1+.0.0 = major
>>>>> features.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any event IMHO the ability to quickly release maintenance releases is
>>>>> very important  as it showcases our attention to quality
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 19:32, Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm not sure I understand "more validation" reasoning - won't features 
>>>>> > at
>>>>> > the end have very little validation?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Ryan Blue <b...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Another reason to release 0.4.1 is to allow the additions that warrant
>>>>> >> 0.5.0 to have more validation before release. With a regular release
>>>>> cycle,
>>>>> >> features can go in at the beginning to have more time for catching bugs
>>>>> in
>>>>> >> them. I also agree with what Sean said below.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> rb
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On 12/17/2015 04:00 PM, Sean Busbey wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> s/features/buxfixes/
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Is there a reason to not just cut a 0.5.0 instead of grafting 0.5.0
>>>>> >>>>> features onto 0.4.1?
>>>>> >>> This is a good question.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Some downstream users might have different change processes for a
>>>>> patch vs
>>>>> >>> minor release, so making a 0.4.1 that fixes what we determine to be a
>>>>> >>> substantial gap in the 0.4 line would be nice for them.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> While we might be a young project now, it would be good to already 
>>>>> >>> have
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> habit practiced for when we have more users in enterprise settings.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On the other hand, 0.4.0 just happened, so a release in 3 days would
>>>>> >>> minimize the number of "stuck on 0.4.0" folks.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Ryan Blue
>>>>> >> Software Engineer
>>>>> >> Cloudera, Inc.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>



-- 
Sean

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