Matt, How do you see things that are generated during the application build getting tied in here? I'm talking about the asciidoc guides, and eventually the Processor/ControllerService/Reporting task documentation, and javadoc.
Dan Bress Software Engineer ONYX Consulting Services ________________________________________ From: Matt Gilman <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 6:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Website Theme Joe, Edit the files in Git [1]. The pages are separated according to their mark up. After building everything ends up flatten. We can certainly change that in time if necessary. Tony, NIFI-162 [2] [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site/src/pages [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-162 On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tony Kurc <[email protected]> wrote: > should I make a ticket for documenting maintaining the website? I couldn't > find one. > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Matt > > > > What can I do now to help with maintaining v2 stuff? Do I edit the > > files in Git or the files in SVN? Don't want to mess with it yet > > because I don't understand it. But if you can give me a few pointers > > I can help. > > > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Matt Gilman <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > I have an idea of how its going to work. However, once we reach out to > > > infrastructure regarding the external build (if necessary) we'll know > for > > > sure [1]. After that discussion I will update nifi-site in our Git repo > > > accordingly. It says that the mailing list is infrastructure@, does > that > > > mean [email protected]? > > > > > > Mark had an idea about an updated screenshot but higher priority things > > > have popped up. The image can be updated whenever its ready [2]. > > > > > > If you have any other ideas for media we should incorporate (other > > > screenshots, FAQs, videos, etc) let me know. > > > > > > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external > > > [2] > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/blob/develop/nifi-site/src/images/flow.png > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Matt > > >> > > >> It looks good. Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update > > >> documented. Do you know that or is it TBD? > > >> > > >> Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot? > > >> > > >> Joe > > >> On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated > > website > > >> > [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from > > the > > >> > last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to > INFRA > > >> > about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that > > >> conservation I > > >> > will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am > > assuming > > >> > that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be > > >> > deploying the site using SVN. > > >> > > > >> > [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/ > > >> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee < > > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > I think that's perfect! > > >> > > > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the > current > > >> site. > > >> > > > New tagline > > >> > > > > > >> > > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to > > >> > process > > >> > > > and distribute data." > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really > > >> strange > > >> > > text > > >> > > > sizing issues. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks > > >> > > > Joe > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman < > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Aldrin, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to > accomplish, > > I'm > > >> > > just > > >> > > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle > on > > >> > > > everything > > >> > > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the > email > > >> you > > >> > > sent > > >> > > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter > > >> further > > >> > > > with > > >> > > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change > > (outside > > >> > of > > >> > > > CMS) > > >> > > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the > > publishing. > > >> It > > >> > > did > > >> > > > > not. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into > the > > >> > static > > >> > > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm > > trying > > >> > to > > >> > > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any > > >> objections > > >> > I > > >> > > am > > >> > > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the > > root > > >> > of > > >> > > > our > > >> > > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is > living > > >> in a > > >> > > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had > started. > > >> > > Anyways, > > >> > > > I > > >> > > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site > > in a > > >> > more > > >> > > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can > utilize a > > >> > maven > > >> > > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor, > > guides, > > >> > > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location. > > The > > >> > site > > >> > > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site > and > > >> > > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri < > > >> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where > the > > >> > > current > > >> > > > > > platform for them needs to be. Additionally, with a site > more > > >> > > > accessible > > >> > > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to > > route > > >> > > things > > >> > > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on > some > > >> > > > > "finalized" > > >> > > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other > projects > > >> are > > >> > > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use > > the > > >> > ASF > > >> > > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build > > through > > >> a > > >> > > > script > > >> > > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to > > the > > >> > infra > > >> > > > > SVN; > > >> > > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall > concept > > >> makes > > >> > > > > sense. > > >> > > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair > > >> approach > > >> > to > > >> > > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while > simultaneously > > >> not > > >> > > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS > > >> information > > >> > > > [2], > > >> > > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish > with > > the > > >> > > > notion > > >> > > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is > > >> static > > >> > > html > > >> > > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is > > the > > >> > > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git > > >> repository > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > as > > >> > > > > > a product of the build process. Quickly brainstorming a way > > to > > >> > > attack > > >> > > > > this > > >> > > > > > would be: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 1. provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository, > > 'site' > > >> > > > (Matt > > >> > > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any > > objections, > > >> so > > >> > it > > >> > > > > seems > > >> > > > > > like a reasonable path forward) > > >> > > > > > 2. provide a script that compiles the site, making use of > the > > >> > > desired > > >> > > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site > > >> > > > > > 3. provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site > > >> > > > > > a. through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin, > > >> > profile, > > >> > > > or > > >> > > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do > > the > > >> > job) > > >> > > > > > b. call the script to generate the static structure of > the > > >> site > > >> > > > which > > >> > > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to > make > > use > > >> > of > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work > > in a > > >> > less > > >> > > > > > cumbersome manner) > > >> > > > > > 4. commit to infra subversion > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows > > submission > > >> of > > >> > > > > patches > > >> > > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for > > accomplishing > > >> > what > > >> > > is > > >> > > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content > > delivery. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the > > >> above > > >> > > > plan. > > >> > > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc, > > >> > processor > > >> > > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS > template > > set > > >> > > > forth, > > >> > > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is > > certainly > > >> > > doable. > > >> > > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing > > generated > > >> > > files > > >> > > > > to > > >> > > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose > the > > SVN > > >> > > > site), > > >> > > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation > and > > a > > >> > given > > >> > > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly > to > > >> SVN > > >> > or > > >> > > > ASF > > >> > > > > > CMS. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that > it > > >> > would > > >> > > > > remove > > >> > > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet > > that > > >> > > works > > >> > > > > with > > >> > > > > > the CMS. This becomes a manual process to find the source > > >> content > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > > apply the patch to it in Git. Although to some extent, this > > is > > >> > > already > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor > > documentation. > > >> > Not > > >> > > > sure > > >> > > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of > > >> consideration. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > [1] > > >> > > > https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh > > >> > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee < > > >> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > You guys are totally right. Ok, as a starting point, what > > >> about > > >> > > this > > >> > > > > or > > >> > > > > > > something like this? > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive > dataflow > > >> > > > management > > >> > > > > > > system. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -Jenn > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner < > > >> > > > [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot: > > >> > > > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store > > is a > > >> > > > robust, > > >> > > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval > > system. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to > > the > > >> > > point > > >> > > > > and > > >> > > > > > as > > >> > > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is > > >> trying > > >> > to > > >> > > > do. > > >> > > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed > > >> messaging > > >> > > > > > system. " > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria < > > >> > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be > > >> > removed > > >> > > > (I'm > > >> > > > > > not > > >> > > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to > > >> > > illustrate > > >> > > > > > that > > >> > > > > > > > it's > > >> > > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational > > reference. > > >> > So, > > >> > > > it > > >> > > > > > > > depends > > >> > > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag > line. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt < > > >> > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference. I'll just be > the > > >> > excited > > >> > > > > tech > > >> > > > > > > guy > > >> > > > > > > > in > > >> > > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about > > it. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" < > > >> > > [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very > > >> important > > >> > as > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > > > model > > >> > > > > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood > term. > > >> > FWIW, > > >> > > I > > >> > > > > > hadn't > > >> > > > > > > > >> heard > > >> > > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi. > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee < > > >> > > > > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. > > Thanks > > >> so > > >> > > much > > >> > > > > for > > >> > > > > > > > >>> sending > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be... > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add... > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based > > programming > > >> is > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > basis > > >> > > > > > > > of > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's > > why > > >> it > > >> > > went > > >> > > > > > into > > >> > > > > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be > > >> > specifically > > >> > > > > there. > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Someone > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last > > part: > > >> > > > > "transform > > >> > > > > > > and > > >> > > > > > > > >>> move > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi > to > > >> > being > > >> > > > only > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data > is > > >> not > > >> > > all > > >> > > > > that > > >> > > > > > > > NiFi > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system. > > >> It's a > > >> > > > > > dataflow > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything > > about > > >> > the > > >> > > > > > > dataflow, > > >> > > > > > > > >>> from > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and > > routed, > > >> to > > >> > > how > > >> > > > > you > > >> > > > > > > > >> monitor > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you > configure > > and > > >> > > > design > > >> > > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc. The moving and > > transforming > > >> > > parts > > >> > > > > are > > >> > > > > > > > just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework > that > > >> > allows > > >> > > > you > > >> > > > > > to > > >> > > > > > > > >>> manage > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I > can't > > >> come > > >> > > up > > >> > > > > with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to > > >> > everything > > >> > > > :-) > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be > > happy > > >> > to > > >> > > > know > > >> > > > > > > what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could > land > > on > > >> > the > > >> > > > page > > >> > > > > > and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your > > sentence > > >> > would > > >> > > > get > > >> > > > > > > > people > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Cheers, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Jenn > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner < > > >> > > > > > > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick > (sorry). > > >> I'm > > >> > > > just a > > >> > > > > > fan > > >> > > > > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of > > >> flow-based > > >> > > > > > > > >> programming. > > >> > > > > > > > >>> It > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is > > rather > > >> > > > wordy. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, > which > > >> > makes > > >> > > it > > >> > > > > > kind > > >> > > > > > > of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter > > >> enough > > >> > > to > > >> > > > be > > >> > > > > > > part > > >> > > > > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point > > below. > > >> > Same > > >> > > > > with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> incubator > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available > > information > > >> > that > > >> > > > > > doesn't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would > > >> > eventually > > >> > > > > > > change). > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to > use, > > >> > highly > > >> > > > > > > > >>> configurable, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move > > >> > files." > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my > > >> > sentence > > >> > > > > could > > >> > > > > > > be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what > > the > > >> > true > > >> > > > > > sticking > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> points > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> -d > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt < > > >> > > > [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like > the > > >> > > proposed > > >> > > > is > > >> > > > > > too > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning. Many > > projects > > >> > > claim > > >> > > > > > > > >> they're > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost > > >> always > > >> > > > that > > >> > > > > > just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> isn't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> true. We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore. > > We > > >> > could > > >> > > > > have > > >> > > > > > > > >> said > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that > > we're > > >> > > > > weighing > > >> > > > > > in > > >> > > > > > > > >> at > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its > > own. > > >> > > We're > > >> > > > > > > > >> certainly > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and > > arguably > > >> in > > >> > > all > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >> ways > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat > > >> > > specific. I > > >> > > > > > agree > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> we're > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels > > >> > > misleading. I > > >> > > > > > agree > > >> > > > > > > > >> we > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> have > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly > > >> configurable > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > > > > >> intuitive > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should > provide > > >> some > > >> > > > > context > > >> > > > > > as > > >> > > > > > > > >> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source > > thing. > > >> > We > > >> > > > can > > >> > > > > > > just > > >> > > > > > > > >>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and > what > > >> > > they're > > >> > > > > good > > >> > > > > > > > >> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do. We can even be self deprecating > and > > >> point > > >> > > out > > >> > > > > > what > > >> > > > > > > > >>> we're > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> good at. If it were a commercial construct or we > > were > > >> > > > > marketing > > >> > > > > > > > >> then > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> we > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to > exclude > > >> some > > >> > > > > > potential > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> business > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> area. But in this case, we're a tiny little open > > >> source > > >> > > > > project > > >> > > > > > > > >> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> very > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about. We're only going to grow > by > > >> > being > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> straightforward > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in > to > > >> that > > >> > > > > vision > > >> > > > > > > and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> direction. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid > > >> > changing > > >> > > > it > > >> > > > > > > > >> should > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> you > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer > Barnabee > > < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al - > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great... I > feel > > >> like > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > text > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> needs > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi > > heading, > > >> I > > >> > > > > suggest > > >> > > > > > > > >>> making > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd > > also > > >> > like > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > > > make > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested > > text > > >> > > > below. I > > >> > > > > > > > >> hope > > >> > > > > > > > >>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> still > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, > > but > > >> > > others > > >> > > > > may > > >> > > > > > > > >> have > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> good > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well... For example, in the last > > >> > bullet, > > >> > > I > > >> > > > > > don't > > >> > > > > > > > >>> know > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> if > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if > > >> > > "authentication" > > >> > > > > > would > > >> > > > > > > > >>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> better > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a > > better > > >> > > > handle > > >> > > > > on > > >> > > > > > > > >>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> type > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi * > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of > > >> flow-based > > >> > > > > > > > >>> programming. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> It > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable > > directed > > >> > > graphs > > >> > > > of > > >> > > > > > > > >> data > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> routing, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic. > > >> High-level > > >> > > > > features > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> include: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Lightweight > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Scalable > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Highly Configurable > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Intuitive User Interface > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Component-based Extension Model > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Fine Grained Data Provenance > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Enterprise & Inter-system Security > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Content Encryption/Decryption > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down > > to > > >> see > > >> > > all > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> features. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was > > looking > > >> at > > >> > > it > > >> > > > on > > >> > > > > > my > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> phone, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> so > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... * > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the > website > > >> > based > > >> > > on > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>> most > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main > > page > > >> > and > > >> > > > put > > >> > > > > it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> here: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/ > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more > appropriate > > >> place > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > host > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port > > over > > >> > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>> remaining > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pages > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the > > >> > documentation > > >> > > > > that > > >> > > > > > > > >> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> generated > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely > going > > to > > >> > > depend > > >> > > > > on > > >> > > > > > > > >>> what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done > > uses > > >> a > > >> > > > number > > >> > > > > > of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> tools > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build > > the > > >> > > site. > > >> > > > I > > >> > > > > > > > >>> believe > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting > site. > > >> > Where > > >> > > do > > >> > > > > > > > >> others > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> CM > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I > > did > > >> > find > > >> > > > > > another > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Apache > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository > for > > >> > there > > >> > > > > site. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Should > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or > > should I > > >> > just > > >> > > > add > > >> > > > > > it > > >> > > > > > > > >>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level > > folder > > >> > for > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >> site? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a > > deployment > > >> > > script > > >> > > > > > which > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> appears > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most > > >> > projects > > >> > > > > > handle > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> site > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri < > > >> > > > > > > > >>> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve. > > Let > > >> me > > >> > > know > > >> > > > > how > > >> > > > > > > > >>> you > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> want > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to > investigate > > >> any > > >> > of > > >> > > > > them. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that > > should > > >> > > > provide > > >> > > > > a > > >> > > > > > > > >>> hook > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the > > rest of > > >> > the > > >> > > > > site. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35 > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it > > >> > looks. I > > >> > > > > > > > >>> thought > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar > > but > > >> > held > > >> > > > off > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> initially > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible > > >> across > > >> > > all > > >> > > > > > > > >>> pages > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current > > >> > > > > documentation > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> loads > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be > > >> addressed. > > >> > > > > > > > >> Haven't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> messed > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's > possible. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues... > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into > > >> website > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale > them) > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use > > (what I > > >> > did > > >> > > > was > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> quick > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this > discussion) > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin > Piri < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here. I think clean and simple > is > > the > > >> > > right > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> direction > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I > > think > > >> it > > >> > > is a > > >> > > > > > > > >>> matter > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following > > >> comments > > >> > > > come > > >> > > > > > > > >>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it > > somewhere on > > >> > the > > >> > > > > page > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in > the > > >> > > site. I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> realize > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home > > page, > > >> > but > > >> > > > on > > >> > > > > > > > >> all > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general > > project > > >> > > > > > > > >> information, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state. One way > to > > >> > > > compromise > > >> > > > > > > > >>> might > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the > > logo > > >> on > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >> main > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> content > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> area > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling > > would > > >> > > > obscure > > >> > > > > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo; > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> all > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the > > >> header. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the > navbar > > for > > >> > the > > >> > > > > menu > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> items. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like > > most > > >> > > > people > > >> > > > > > > > >> do > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> too. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions > > but > > >> > > > thought > > >> > > > > > > > >> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than > > trying > > >> to > > >> > > ask > > >> > > > > > > > >> you > > >> > > > > > > > >>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> move > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and > lets > > >> > > continue > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> iterating. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/ > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt > < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it. But I > personally > > >> > agree > > >> > > > > > > > >> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> your > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text > > >> looks > > >> > > good > > >> > > > > > > > >> as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi" > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel > > Bress > > >> < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this looks good. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe this is a little off topic, but I > > >> > noticed > > >> > > > > > > > >>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text > its > > >> > > > > > > > >>> consistently > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> written > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi". Any reason for the difference? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kind of thing the logos look good as > > >> "nifi" > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> text > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning > > something > > >> > > that I > > >> > > > > > > > >>> am > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> OK > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was > > wondering > > >> if > > >> > > this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> was a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not. Thoughts? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your > > comments > > >> > > > > > > > >> aldrin. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Very > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on > > the > > >> > main > > >> > > > > > > > >>> page > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty. I don't know that we > > necessarily > > >> > need > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed. Additionally, I > > viewed > > >> it > > >> > > as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> being > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would > just > > >> have > > >> > > > > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> top > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me. I was lazy and I > recycled > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> screenshot > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> from > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration. It would definitely > need > > >> > > > > > > > >> updating, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept. I > > would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> definitely > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> like > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging. (faux edit) I > > >> rearranged > > >> > > > > > > > >>> things > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> bit, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and > > placing > > >> > more > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> emphasis > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application. Not > > sure > > >> if > > >> > I > > >> > > > > > > > >>> like > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all > > three > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2]. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at > > this > > >> > > > > > > > >>> juncture. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> could > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not > > sure > > >> > if > > >> > > > > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> project > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet. It seemed a common thread > > among > > >> > > > > > > > >>> incubating > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sites > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those > > top-level > > >> > > > > > > > >>> projects > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one. Given that the project is > > on > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>> verge > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is > > >> > > increasingly > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future. At minimum, one of the > > screen > > >> > grabs > > >> > > > > > > > >>> from > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> your > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark > > Payne > > >> < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice. > > >> Though I > > >> > > > > > > > >>> would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the > > NiFi > > >> > logo > > >> > > > > > > > >> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I > would > > >> > update > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>> top-left > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> corner, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing > before > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow > > that's > > >> > more > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> appealing > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other > > >> Apache > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> projects > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP > > >> > > processor. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a > > >> > 'Latest > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> News' > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> section > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things > like > > >> > > "Version > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1 > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!" > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice > job! > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800 > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, > Aldrin > > >> Piri > > >> > < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide > > another > > >> > > > > > > > >> look > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core > > HTML > > >> as > > >> > > > > > > > >> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just > a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> stylesheet. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> This > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by > > >> Bootstrap > > >> > > > > > > > >>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> directly > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the > > "lite" > > >> > > > > > > > >>> branch > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> at > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, > Aldrin > > >> Piri > > >> > < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent > twice. > > >> My > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> first > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam > > threshold > > >> > > > > > > > >>> when I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sent > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, > so > > >> I'm > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> sending > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback. > I > > >> think > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> UI/UX > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> plumbing > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle > > all > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> comments > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is > everywhere, > > >> but I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> don't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing. One could > argue > > >> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the > instant > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> familiarity > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of > > what > > >> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> takes > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel > > across > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> devices. I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> think > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important. Personally, as a > > user > > >> > > > > > > > >> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand > why > > >> sites > > >> > > > > > > > >>> do > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> work > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; > > it > > >> > > > > > > > >>> should > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> work. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and > "Not > > >> > > > > > > > >> Making > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no > > pinch > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> zooming, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> tap > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and > > pieces of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the > cookie > > >> > > > > > > > >> cutter > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> air, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that > > front > > >> > > > > > > > >> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>> do > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> my > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample > > looked > > >> > > > > > > > >>> pretty > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> decent > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and > > used > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> constructs > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is > > >> > > > > > > > >> accustomed. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the > > >> possibility > > >> > > > > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> brand > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> consideration. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> As > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was > > given > > >> > > > > > > > >> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the > core > > >> > > > > > > > >> site. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> sure > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> if > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I > can > > >> see > > >> > > > > > > > >> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> my > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth > > exploring. It > > >> > > > > > > > >> may > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> also > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev > > >> > > > > > > > >> prowess, > > >> > > > > > > > >>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> should > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first > > draft. > > >> > > > > > > > >>> You'll > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> see a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is > > >> > > > > > > > >> featured > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. This was muted a bit by a > CSS > > >> > > > > > > > >>> overlay > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> level > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to > > >> whether > > >> > > > > > > > >>> or > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get > something > > out > > >> > > > > > > > >> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> start > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> iterations. I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> know > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting > in, > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> project > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and > > >> > > > > > > > >> thought > > >> > > > > > > > >>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the > > >> > > > > > > > >> project. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this > particular > > >> > > > > > > > >> project > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> needs > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities. > > One > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> facets > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is > that > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>> end > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> user > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers. Citing the previous > > example > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature > > and, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of > > >> > > > > > > > >> "key-value > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> store." > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and > > >> can't > > >> > > > > > > > >> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> done > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase. For the casual > > potential > > >> > > > > > > > >> user > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> who > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> has > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file, > > >> manually > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to > see > > at > > >> > > > > > > > >>> quick > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> glance > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this > > tedium > > >> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> make > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> them > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition > > needs > > >> to > > >> > > > > > > > >> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this > as a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> framework, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't > > >> > > > > > > > >> awesome, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I > generated > > it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> myself. I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else. > > >> > > > > > > > >> Definitely > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively > not > > a > > >> > > > > > > > >>> graphic > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> artist. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo > dark > > >> blue > > >> > > > > > > > >>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> running > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to > get > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> something. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top > of > > it > > >> as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> well > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud. It could definitely deal > > with > > >> > > > > > > > >>> being > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> muted > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, > Tony > > >> Kurc > > >> > > > > > > > >> < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing > > site > > >> > > > > > > > >> was > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> put > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout > > that > > >> > > > > > > > >>> worked > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> well > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information > > expected > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >> an > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> apache > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For > people > > >> new > > >> > > > > > > > >> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat > > links > > >> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> things > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> care > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing! > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the > > >> > > > > > > > >> existing > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> site > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> are > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I > > used > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> "link", > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we > > kind > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> took a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the > > menu. > > >> > > > > > > > >> I'm > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> pretty > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the > > >> > > > > > > > >> awesome > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> guides > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website > and > > >> > > > > > > > >> maybe > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> have > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> so > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a > > dumb > > >> > > > > > > > >> idea > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> ;) > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> ) > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> A > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time > > finding > > >> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and > > keeping > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> around > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still > > >> working > > >> > > > > > > > >>> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> these > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be > > >> > > > > > > > >> straightforward > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a > > reddish > > >> or > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> purplish > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> - > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. > > I'm > > >> > > > > > > > >> kind > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock > one > > up > > >> > > > > > > > >> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> looked > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad? > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the > > website > > >> > > > > > > > >>> evoke > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, > Joe > > >> Witt > > >> > > > > > > > >> < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the > > spectrum > > >> as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/ [super > > >> > > > > > > > >>> minimalist] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ > > [ > > >> > > > > > > > >>> quite > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> fancy > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully > > done > > >> > > > > > > > >> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> make > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide > > >> great > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is > > that we > > >> > > > > > > > >> as > > >> > > > > > > > >>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> community > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness > > to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> contribute > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, > Joe > > >> > > > > > > > >> Witt < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based. Each > is > > an > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> iterative > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have > time, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> willingness, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does > not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that > > yet. > > >> > > > > > > > >>> We > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> just > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help > grow a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> community > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> get > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need. We need it laid out in a > way > > >> > > > > > > > >> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> multiple > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit > > some > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> committers, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then > > perhaps > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> branding > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn > > another > > >> > > > > > > > >>> thread > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be... > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, > > Adam > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Taft > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think > > it > > >> > > > > > > > >>> indeed > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> looks > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism... > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a > > very > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> generic > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap" > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based > > sites. > > >> > > > > > > > >>> I'd > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website > over > > a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more > > than > > >> > > > > > > > >>> what > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> it > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an > > acceptable > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project; > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is > > obviously a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> resource > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point. But the site > > >> > > > > > > > >> mockup > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. > In > > >> fact > > >> > > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously > > for > > >> > > > > > > > >> me, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> was > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/ > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, > > >> Aldrin > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Piri > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the > > goals > > >> > > > > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit > more > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> visually > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at: > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around > > the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> homepage, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven > > pages > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> minus > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology > colophon > > is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> provided > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap, > > >> > > > > > > > >>> existing > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> image > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and > > other > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork" > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am > > I a > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> renowned > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer, > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome. As a > "version > > >> > > > > > > > >> 1.1" > > >> > > > > > > > >>> I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the > > application. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Ideas > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> for > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar > > styling > > >> > > > > > > > >>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> color > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable > > path > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> forward > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next > > >> > > > > > > > >> steps > > >> > > > > > > > >>> to > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> get > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and > > >> > > > > > > > >> integration > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the > intangibles > > >> > > > > > > > >> that > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> can't > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently > > nonfunctional as > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> they > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> were > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >
