I've ported over most of the existing pages into the updated website. Still 
need to get the guides from the application build integrated and figure out the 
deployment. Since I didn't hear any objections I'm going to add the website 
artifacts into Git repo hopefully tomorrow afternoon.

Matt

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> On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current site.
> New tagline
> 
> "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to process
> and distribute data."
> 
> Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really strange text
> sizing issues.
> 
> Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> 
> Thanks
> Joe
> 
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Aldrin,
>> 
>> What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish, I'm just
>> trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on everything
>> except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email you sent
>> out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter further with
>> infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change (outside of CMS)
>> to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the publishing. It did
>> not.
>> 
>> I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the static
>> site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm trying to
>> figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any objections I am
>> going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the root of our
>> Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living in a
>> repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started. Anyways, I
>> believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site in a more
>> accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
>> 
>> As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a maven
>> plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor, guides,
>> javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location. The site
>> would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
>> application builds independent which I think is desirable.
>> 
>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the current
>>> platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more accessible
>>> and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to route things
>>> back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
>> "finalized"
>>> state of the site, I did some research into how other projects are
>>> accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
>>> 
>>> Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use the ASF
>>> infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build through a script
>>> [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to the infra
>> SVN;
>>> it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept makes
>> sense.
>>> Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair approach to
>>> utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously not
>>> requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS information [2],
>>> the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with the notion
>>> that the interface between site code and the actual view is static html
>>> committed to the Infra SVN repo.
>>> 
>>> The one area that I think is important to address though is the
>>> incorporation of the material being generated in the git repository and
>> as
>>> a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way to attack
>> this
>>> would be:
>>> 
>>> 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository, 'site'  (Matt
>>> posed this as a possibility to which no one had any objections, so it
>> seems
>>> like a reasonable path forward)
>>> 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the desired
>>> tools assuming the structure of the site
>>> 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
>>>  a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin, profile, or
>>> other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do the job)
>>>  b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the site which
>>> has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make use of the
>>> diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work in a less
>>> cumbersome manner)
>>> 4.  commit to infra subversion
>>> 
>>> The code for the site is easily accessible and allows submission of
>> patches
>>> via git while using the tools that make sense for accomplishing what is
>>> needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content delivery.
>>> 
>>> There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the above plan.
>>> The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc, processor
>>> documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template set forth,
>>> but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is certainly doable.
>>> The above method allows for the avoidance of committing generated files
>> to
>>> the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the SVN site),
>>> and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and a given
>>> commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to SVN or ASF
>>> CMS.
>>> 
>>> One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it would
>> remove
>>> the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet that works
>> with
>>> the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source content and
>>> apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this is already
>> the
>>> case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor documentation.  Not sure
>>> if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of consideration.
>>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what about this
>> or
>>>> something like this?
>>>> 
>>>> Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow management
>>>> system.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Jenn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Same here, never heard of fbp.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
>>>>> The Apache Accumuloâ„¢ sorted, distributed key/value store is a robust,
>>>>> scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to the point
>> and
>>> as
>>>>> a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is trying to do.
>>>>> Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed messaging
>>> system. "
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be removed (I'm
>>> not
>>>>>> really advocating for anything). My point was meant to illustrate
>>> that
>>>>> it's
>>>>>> not a draw, but it is potentially an educational reference. So, it
>>>>> depends
>>>>>> on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the excited
>> tech
>>>> guy
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about it.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I understand that flow-based programming is very important as the
>>>> model
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term. FWIW, I
>>> hadn't
>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Donald,
>>>>>>>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. Thanks so much
>> for
>>>>>>>> sending
>>>>>>>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have these thoughts to add...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based programming is the
>>> basis
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's why it went
>>> into
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be specifically
>> there.
>>>>>>>> Someone
>>>>>>>>> else can weigh in on that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last part:
>> "transform
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to being only
>>>>>>>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is not all
>> that
>>>>> NiFi
>>>>>>>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system. It's a
>>> dataflow
>>>>>>>>> management system. And that encompasses everything about the
>>>> dataflow,
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and routed, to how
>> you
>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure and design
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and transforming parts
>> are
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that allows you
>>> to
>>>>>>>> manage
>>>>>>>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't come up
>> with
>>>>>>>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to everything :-)
>>>>>>>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be happy to know
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> others think. It would be great if people could land on the page
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your sentence would get
>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry). I'm just a
>>> fan
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
>>>>>>> programming.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is rather wordy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which makes it
>>> kind
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter enough to be
>>>> part
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point below. Same
>> with
>>>>>>>>> incubator
>>>>>>>>>> status... I think that's readily available information that
>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would eventually
>>>> change).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here's my stab:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use, highly
>>>>>>>> configurable,
>>>>>>>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move files."
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my sentence
>> could
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what the true
>>> sticking
>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>> for NiFi will be.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -d
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the proposed is
>>> too
>>>>>>>>>> concise
>>>>>>>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many projects claim
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost always that
>>> just
>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.  We could
>> have
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that we're
>> weighing
>>> in
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its own.  We're
>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and arguably in all
>> the
>>>>>>> ways
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat specific.  I
>>> agree
>>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels misleading.  I
>>> agree
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly configurable and
>>>>>>> intuitive
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide some
>> context
>>> as
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> we mean.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source thing.  We can
>>>> just
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what they're
>> good
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and point out
>>> what
>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we were
>> marketing
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude some
>>> potential
>>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open source
>> project
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by being
>>>>>>>>> straightforward
>>>>>>>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to that
>> vision
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid changing it
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
>>>>>>>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel like the
>>> text
>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi heading, I
>> suggest
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd also like to
>>> make
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested text below. I
>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, but others
>> may
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last bullet, I
>>> don't
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if "authentication"
>>> would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a better handle
>> on
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>>>>>> of stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
>>>>>>>> programming.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed graphs of
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>> routing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic. High-level
>> features
>>>>>>>>>> include:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Lightweight
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Scalable
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Highly Configurable
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Intuitive User Interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Component-based Extension Model
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Fine Grained Data Provenance
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Content Encryption/Decryption
>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down to see all
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was looking at it on
>>> my
>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website based on
>> the
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main page and put
>> it
>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate place to
>> host
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port over the
>>>>>>>> remaining
>>>>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the documentation
>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> generated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going to depend
>> on
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done uses a number
>>> of
>>>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build the site. I
>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site. Where do
>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>> CM
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I did find
>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for there
>> site.
>>>>>>>>> Should
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or should I just add
>>> it
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level folder for the
>>>>>>> site?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a deployment script
>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most projects
>>> handle
>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.  Let me know
>> how
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate any of
>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that should provide
>> a
>>>>>>>> hook
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the rest of the
>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it looks. I
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar but held off
>>>>>>>>>>> initially
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible across all
>>>>>>>> pages
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
>> documentation
>>>>>>>>> loads
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be addressed.
>>>>>>> Haven't
>>>>>>>>>> messed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use (what I did was
>>>>>>>>> quick
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is the right
>>>>>>>>>> direction
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I think it is a
>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following comments come
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scope of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it somewhere on the
>> page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the site.  I
>>>>>>>>> realize
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home page, but on
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general project
>>>>>>> information,
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to compromise
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the logo on the
>>>>>>> main
>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling would obscure
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> logo;
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the header.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar for the
>> menu
>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like most people
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions but thought
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than trying to ask
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets continue
>>>>>>>>>>> iterating.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
>>>>>>>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally agree
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text looks good
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Bress <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I think this looks good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Maybe this is a little off topic, but I noticed
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
>>>>>>>> consistently
>>>>>>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I kind of thing the logos look good as "nifi" and
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning something that I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was wondering if this
>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conscious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your comments
>>>>>>> aldrin.
>>>>>>>>>> Very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on the main
>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we necessarily need
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I viewed it as
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "front
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just have
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>>>>>> navbar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled the
>>>>>>>>> screenshot
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
>>>>>>> updating,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I would
>>>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I rearranged
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> bit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and placing more
>>>>>>>>>> emphasis
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not sure if I
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all three of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at this
>>>>>>>> juncture.
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not sure if
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread among
>>>>>>>> incubating
>>>>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those top-level
>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is on the
>>>>>>>> verge
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is increasingly
>>>>>>>>>>> pertinent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the screen grabs
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark Payne <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice. Though I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the NiFi logo
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right-hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would update
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in the
>>>>>>>> top-left
>>>>>>>>>>>> corner,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before the
>>>>>>>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow that's more
>>>>>>>>>>> appealing
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other Apache
>>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (HDFS,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP processor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a 'Latest
>>>>>>>>> News'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like "Version
>>>>>>>>> 0.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide another
>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core HTML as
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> served
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
>>>>>>>>> stylesheet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by Bootstrap
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the "lite"
>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.   My
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submission
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam threshold
>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>> sent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so I'm
>>>>>>>>>> sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I think
>>>>>>>>> UI/UX
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in the
>>>>>>>>> plumbing
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle all the
>>>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere, but I
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue that
>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
>>>>>>>>> familiarity
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of what it
>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel across
>>>>>>>>>> devices.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a user
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why sites
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; it
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
>>>>>>> Making
>>>>>>>>>>> [Anyone]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no pinch
>>>>>>>>> zooming,
>>>>>>>>>>> tap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and pieces of
>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
>>>>>>> cutter
>>>>>>>>>> air,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that front
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample looked
>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and used
>>>>>>>>>> constructs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
>>>>>>> accustomed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the possibility
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
>>>>>>>>> consideration.
>>>>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was given
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can see
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth exploring.  It
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
>>>>>>> prowess,
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first draft.
>>>>>>>> You'll
>>>>>>>>>>> see a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
>>>>>>> featured
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
>>>>>>>> overlay
>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to whether
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something out
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
>>>>>>>>> iterations.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in, the
>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pictures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.  One of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> facets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that the
>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous example of
>>>>>>>>>>> Accumulo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature and,
>>>>>>>>>>>> accordingly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
>>>>>>> "key-value
>>>>>>>>>>> store."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and can't
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual potential
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strung
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file, manually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transforming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see at
>>>>>>>> quick
>>>>>>>>>>> glance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this tedium and
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition needs to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
>>>>>>>>> framework,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
>>>>>>> awesome,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated it
>>>>>>>>>> myself.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
>>>>>>> Definitely
>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not a
>>>>>>>> graphic
>>>>>>>>>>>> artist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark blue
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of it as
>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal with
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> muted
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony Kurc
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing site
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout that
>>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information expected of
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people new
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat links for
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I used
>>>>>>>>> "link",
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we kind of
>>>>>>>>> took a
>>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the menu.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
>>>>>>> awesome
>>>>>>>>>> guides
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> pdfs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a dumb
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peeve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time finding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and keeping
>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still working
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
>>>>>>> straightforward
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a reddish or
>>>>>>>>>> purplish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. I'm
>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> curious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one up
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the website
>>>>>>>> evoke
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Witt
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the spectrum as
>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
>>>>>>>> minimalist]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ [
>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>> fancy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully done
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide great
>>>>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is that we
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness to
>>>>>>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
>>>>>>> Witt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is an
>>>>>>>>>> iterative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
>>>>>>>>>> willingness,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that yet.
>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> multiple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit some
>>>>>>>>>>> committers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then perhaps
>>>>>>>>> branding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn another
>>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Adam
>>>>>>>> Taft
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think it
>>>>>>>> indeed
>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a very
>>>>>>>>> generic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based sites.
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over a
>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more than
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an acceptable
>>>>>>>>>> tradeoff
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is obviously a
>>>>>>>>>> resource
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> savings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
>>>>>>> mockup
>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In fact
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously for
>>>>>>> me,
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Aldrin
>>>>>>>>> Piri
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the goals
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
>>>>>>>>> visually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around the
>>>>>>>>>> homepage,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven pages
>>>>>>>>> minus
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon is
>>>>>>>>>> provided
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> README
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and other
>>>>>>>>>>> "artwork"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am I a
>>>>>>>>>> renowned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome. As a "version
>>>>>>> 1.1"
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the application.
>>>>>>>>> Ideas
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar styling
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> color
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable path
>>>>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
>>>>>>> steps
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
>>>>>>> integration
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently nonfunctional as
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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