OK.

That is too much email for me, I just cant follow and understand all these
discussions anymore. Almost 300 messages among multiple overlapping threads full
of heated opinions in 2-3 days is insane.

I just cant dedicate enough time reading any more of this. I have other things
to do than trying to understand these multiple rebooted workflows proposals that
span days (and nights!) of discussions.

So I can't vote on anything. I dont understand what is going on anymore. I'm
lost. Probably not important since I did not ask and choose to be a committer,
but since opinions are asked, here are mine.


Can someone please sum up what we have to decide in a short email, less than a 
page?


To be honest, viewed from here, I just seem to understand that some opinions are
very pushy and are trying to act before decisions are settled.

Also some kind of extra-heavy decisions on a full process NO ONE has been able
to install up to now for years.

I just want to say that going to apache should not be an occasion to try to
force the process of someone liking or another just because not everyone has an
equally stronger opinion and voice and free time for emails.

On my part, seeing too hard pushes in any specific direction just rings an alarm
bell to be extra-cautious.


I think the process should be as simple as possible, and improved later. Just
select the absolute bare minimum that could start to work and discard everything
else so this project can work again.


We are using git so things are reversable, right? We will not get this right the
first time, so lets keep room for errors. If I understand correctly the
bitbucket repositories are still in a consistent pre-apache state and the apache
ones can be reset? or is the apache->bb mirroring already active?

Also, I did not see a notification that the BB repositories had been frozen.


These workflow and reviewing discussions are just killing extremely valuable
time for everyone without visible progress (because too many messages).


So again, I would like to read a very short state of the union at monday
2019-Dec-23 17:01 UTC+1.

Otherwise I cant make decisions. And I guess I am not the only one.


Sebastien


Le 22/12/2019 à 17:25, Gregory Nutt a écrit :
>
>> Let's get everyone's thoughts on the table 
>
> I suppose that we should keep the discussion for 72 hours then call the vote. 
> We need to allow time for everyone to comment and with the holidays, we may
> not be able to get good feedback. Should we still call a vote if people are
> not participating?
>
> I will call the vote on your behalf in 72 hours.
>
> Greg
>
>
>

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