Thats part of the bug Scott.  This is set at sale time.  However, if you do
not do a quick ship (use the Facilities shipping) and you add freight
charges later, these are not accounted for in the OrderPaymentPreferences.

I have been arguing that while convenient, OrderPaymentPreferences is not
the data underlying billing account.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:48 PM
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: Accounts Receivable


Hi Skip, Jacopo

>There are flaws
>and complications in the latter in that tax and shipping are not taken into
>account and shipping charges added later seem to be ignored.

I'm just noticing this too, I've got a few orders showing up that have
maxAmount set less than the order grand total, that's a bug right?

Thanks
Scott

On 02/11/2007, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Skip,
>
> this looks interesting.
> However, from your message, it is not completely clear to me when you
> speak about existing features/issues or new features (and issues?) in
> your upcoming contribution.
>
> It would be great if you could split the message into two parts:
> 1) one that describes the current situation with focus on possible issues
> 2) one with your proposal and suggested changes; (and also with new
> issues, if there are any)
>
> This would help a lot to simplify the discussion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacopo
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have this mostly working now and I want to run this past you guys to
be
> > sure there are no objections or thoughts on the methods used.  I would
be
> > especially interested in hereing about any testing in out-of=the=way
areas I
> > need to do.
> >
> > 1. First, billing accounts are based entirely on the existance of
Payments
> > and Invoices against the billing account (we also take into account
unbilled
> > Orders for available balance computations).  We do not use
> > PaymentApplication alone or OrderPaymentPreference at all.  There are
flaws
> > and complications in the latter in that tax and shipping are not taken
into
> > account and shipping charges added later seem to be ignored.
> >
> > 2.  A customer can have multiple billing accounts.
> >
> > 3.  Billing account net balance is the sum of the unpaid portion of all
> > Invoices against the billing account (including any credits).
> >
> > 3.  Billing account available balance is the billing account limit -
((sum
> > of unpaid porting of invoices) + (unbilled Orders))
> >       This has a flaw TODO (I think) in that if an Order is created with
back
> > orders on it and part has been shipped and an invoice created for that
part,
> > the whole Order will still subtract from the available balance.
> >
> > 4.  When payments are made, they are never applied to just the billing
> > account.  They are applied to an invoice belonging to the billing
account.
> > If there is an unapplied balance, a new credit Invoice is created to
hold
> > the unapplied balance.
> >
> > This all works with Ofbiz code if I manually apply the payments to
invoices.
> > There are many other possible ways to create a billing account
> > payment/application and I would have to remove them all except for one
which
> > calls my new receiveBillingAccountPayment() service and automatically
> > applies the payment to the oldest invoice(s).
> >
> > This also works with opentaps code if I comment out Si's
> > captureBillingAccountPayments and let the Ofbiz service run.  There is
one
> > screen to change in Opentaps code in viewCustomerBillAcct."Customer
Billing
> > Account Transactions" where outstanding invoices are not being
displayed.  I
> > also had to modify the Opentaps ftl calls to com.openstragegies.xxx to
call
> > the same named (and modified) Ofbiz routines.
> >
> > TODO is a SECA to automatically apply any available credits when a new
> > billing account invoice is created.
> >
> > Can anyone see any holes in this or have any comments?
> >
> > Skip
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:43 AM
> > To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Accounts Receivable
> >
> >
> > Yeah I guess it would help with that, although you still could still
> > pay an invoice directly with it (no billingAccountId on the Invoice),
> > but you couldn't associate the Payment with more than one billing
> > account unless you went for a many to many relationship.  But that's
> > fine, I just thought I'd ask as it was the first thing I saw that
> > didn't make sense to me.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott
> >
> > On 01/11/2007, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Scott Gray wrote:
> >>> Hi Jacopo
> >>>
> >>> I decided to have a look at this stuff and it doesn't make sense to me
> >>> why we have the billingAccountId on PaymentApplication rather than on
> >>> Payment itself?
> >> I agree with you that having the billingAccountId in the Payment entity
> >> would have made things simpler. I did not design this, it was already
> >> there when I've refactored/fixed the billing account processes.
> >> However, having the billingAccountId in the PaymentApplication improve
> >> the flexibility: I could receive a Payment and use one part of it to
pay
> >> an invoice (not associated to a billing account) and use the remaining
> >> to 'fill' a billing account.
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
> >>>  It seems like the logic is pretty much the same
> >>> except we're doing it in a roundabout sort of way by creating a
> >>> PaymentApplication with null invoiceId just to maintain the link.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Scott
> >>>
>
>
>

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