Hi all,

Will the release model and licensing changes impact our demos hosted with 
Apache Software Foundation?

Regards,
James

On 2018/10/24 06:54:05, James Yong <jamesy...@apache.org> wrote: 
> Hi all,
> 
> OFBiz can be used as an application framework and not all business use-case 
> justify the yearly price-tag of Oracle JDK. Given that more products(1) are 
> moving to support OpenJDK, should OFBiz follow?
> 
> Regards,
> James
> 
> (1) See plan of Atlasians product to support OpenJDK
> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-discussions/Java-11-and-OpenJDK-support-for-Atlassian-Server-amp-Data-Center/m-p/872998#M4575
> 
> 
> On 2018/07/31 06:35:46, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: 
> > Hi Michael,
> > 
> > How (by which mean) do you envision to "actively inform users about our 
> > roadmap", blog, wiki or embedded documentation?
> > 
> > It seems the blog is not reaching all our users (needs attention). Maybe an 
> > initial statement could be used there though.
> > 
> > The wiki is slowly deprecating in favour of the embedded documentation. So 
> > I guess we will use the embedded documentation for lasting information, 
> > right?
> > 
> > BTW All, I want to close OFBIZ-9226 "Check that OFBiz runs and compile with 
> > Oracle JDK 9 (Java 9)" as unresolved and create a new similar issue for 
> > Java 11, what do you think?
> > 
> > Jacques
> > 
> > 
> > Le 28/07/2018 à 13:29, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> > > Hi Mathieu,
> > >
> > > my goal is to actively inform users about our roadmap and provide 
> > > information on how the project will deal with the new Java release model. 
> > > Users 
> > > testing OFBiz for their needs in a professional environment also check if 
> > > a project has answers to these questions so I am wrapping my mind around 
> > > it.
> > >
> > > This is just to make clear that I am not eager to switch to newer Java 
> > > versions just for the sake of it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 28.07.18 um 12:54 schrieb Mathieu Lirzin:
> > >>> I wonder if we should base the OFBiz 17.12 release on Java 8 or Java
> > >>> 11. We have no fixed release date yet so we might have time to do it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Another way would be to make a new branch which will support Java 11.
> > >>>
> > >>> What do people think?
> > >> I think OFBiz should be conservative in its choices.
> > >
> > > I agree!
> > >
> > >> Given the fact Java 11 is not release yet or is about to be released,
> > >
> > > Java 11 will be released as GA in Sept 18. At the same time, 
> > > non-subscribed users will get no updates for Java 8 any more.
> > >
> > >> OFBiz should keep compatibity with the previous LTS release meaning java 
> > >> 8.  Of course
> > >
> > > Yes, you are right. If you focus on subscribed users, they will get Java 
> > > 8 support until September 2023 (2026 for extended subscription).
> > > So following my thoughts to assume that users will subscribe, we can stay 
> > > with Java 8 for a while.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, if we test Java 11 and find that we will have few 
> > > issues we can easily handle, it could be a good idea to make the switch 
> > > with 
> > > release 17.12.
> > >
> > > I am open to both (or other) models and would like to hear more opinions 
> > > about that.
> > >
> > >> This does not mean that OFBiz should not be tested with more recent Java
> > >> releases too.
> > >>
> > >> Having an extra branch has a maintenance burden that should be balanced
> > >> with the benefits it provides.  What benefits do you see in having a
> > >> Java 11 branch?
> > >>
> > > This is just an alternative to the Java 11 update of the next branch. I 
> > > do not favor this because of the extra maintenance burden you mentioned.
> > >
> > > In conclusion, we can stick to Java 8, informing our users that they have 
> > > to subscribe for further updates.
> > >
> > > If we do this, we should think about a roadmap/ process to change to Java 
> > > 11 in the future. This could be, for example, set up during the release 
> > > branch 21.x or 22.x to give us enough time.
> > >
> > > We should also, in my opinion, check/test for Java 11 and following 
> > > versions compatibility in the next months to be able to inform users 
> > > about 
> > > compatibilities/incompatibilities with this version. Maybe we can provide 
> > > some compatibility matrix or else.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your thoughts,
> > > Michael
> > >
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