This is handled by OFBIZ-10959, so we can close this convo and use rather "[PROPOSAL] Enable entity timestamp fields" at https://markmail.org/message/x7paa3ulljns6awh if ever needed (OK there and in Jira for me)

Jacques

Le 27/04/2019 à 10:29, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
Thanks Deepak, Suraj,

Yes, that's why I changed the title for this "sub-thread".

Now the question is to agree about having those fields always visible while 
searching or it they should show only based on a properties.

Are those of interest also in a production environment?

Maybe they are not present simply because their presence depends on 
no-auto-stamp="false". I see no other reasons, notably not a performance reason.

In order to avoid confusion we should create a new thread to discuss those 2 
points:

1. Adding them to search fields
2. Having them always visible, not only in dev environment

And if OK create a Jira :)

Jacques

Le 27/04/2019 à 07:40, Suraj Khurana a écrit :
+1, Deepak Dixit.

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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:05 AM Deepak Dixit <deepak.di...@hotwax.co>
wrote:

I think here we are mixing two different thread.

auto-stamp fields in "entity-engine in webtools"
As I understand in this thread we are talking about only view part of find
generic entity page.
Here we are not talking about adding or removing fields in the entity. If
an entity has stamp filed it should display on webtools find generic page,
as it helps while debugging issues.

Please correct me if I misunderstood anything.

Kind Regards,
Deepak Dixit


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:38 PM Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Hi Pritam, All,

To clarify, in case there is a confusion here. If I'm not wrong Suraj
suggested to add the auto-stamp fields in "entity-engine in webtools".

Like for instance at

https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/FindGeneric?entityName=OrderHeader
He did not speak about the 'createdByUserLogin' and
'lastModifiedByUserLogin' fields, please Suraj confirm.

Then I agreed but suggested that it was not a default but implemented
with
a properties to be used during development mostly

Thanks

Jacques

Le 26/04/2019 à 09:00, Pritam Kute a écrit :
IMO, adding 'createdByUserLogin' and 'lastModifiedByUserLogin' fields
to
every entity is not that useful. Like for example, if we consider the
"Visit" entity, I am not able to find any advantage of having these
fields
in this entity. But, it should be added to some crucial entities like
OrderHeader, OrderItem, ProductPrice(which is already there) to track
the
things like who dod the last price updates or order updates.

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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:10 PM Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Le 25/04/2019 à 14:17, Suraj Khurana a écrit :
IMO, this is configurable as Jacques pointed, so need to take any
action.
In fact, I would suggest showing these fields while searching for any
data
from entity-engine in webtools, because they are really helpful while
working in a dev environment for debugging.
This could be configurable indeed (less need in production for
instance
so
default would be false)

Jacques

Just my two cents !!!

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:14 PM Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

A bit out of subject, just to complete the discussion because nobody
spoke
about.

The entities are defined with no-auto-stamp="false" by default so
it's
possible to change this default.

Of course 'createdByUserLogin' and 'lastModifiedByUserLogin' fields
are
not concerned, it was just to complete

Jacques


Le 24/04/2019 à 13:36, Rishi Solanki a écrit :
Michael,
Thank you for details, all makes sense.

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:37 PM Michael Brohl <
michael.br...@ecomify.de>
wrote:

I have not time to elaborate in-depth right now, but just a quick
food
for thought:

Having these fields in every entity *by default* allows detailed
tracking of users which might be unwanted. I know that this is a
sensible topic in companies and affects privacy protection.

I am not sure how the selection of entities with these fields was
done,
maybe others can add insights.

Regards,

Michael Brohl

ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de


Am 24.04.19 um 12:40 schrieb Pierre Smits:
Thanks Michael,

So we should keep those *TxStamp fields.

But what about the second suggestion about having the
'createdByUserLogin'
and 'lastModifiedByUserLogin'  fields added to the internal
fields
set?
Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:20 PM Michael Brohl <
michael.br...@ecomify.de
wrote:

These fields are not the same, they can differ. The TX fields
mark
the
transaction timestamp while the non TX fields mark the "real"
update
time. You can see it when you watch closely in the database. All
changes
made within an transaction have the same tx timestamp.

Regards,

Michael Brohl

ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de


Am 24.04.19 um 09:48 schrieb Pierre Smits:
Hi All,

Currently our functions inject following internal fields into
the
model
of
each entity:

         - createdStamp
         - createdTxStamp
         - lastUpdatedStamp
         - lastUpdatedTxStamp

All of the fields above are of the field type definition
'date-time',
giving for java: java.sql.Timestamp, and for sql: TIMESTAMP.
This
means
that the createdTxStamp is the same as createdStamp  and
lastUpdatedTxStamp
is the same as lastUpdatedStamp.

Should we get rid of the redundant fields?

Also, a lot of entity definitions in the various models have
the
'createdByUserLogin' and 'lastModifiedByUserLogin' added.

Should we have these fields added to the internal fields set so
that
these
are always injected into the model of each entity, and always
filled?
Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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President*
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