Interesting point about Kubernetes, especially since its use would promotes use of runtimes other than docker - https://dev.to/inductor/wait-docker-is-deprecated-in-kubernetes-now-what-do-i-do-e4m
I'd be interested to explore using Kubernetes, but worry it might be a step too far at the moment. Hopefully some people will have Ofbiz-Kubernetes success stories to share that could encourage others to give it a try. I wonder if a benefit of Kubernetes could be how it externalises common application services such as config (etcd) and logging. On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 19:35, Ean Schuessler <e...@brainfood.com> wrote: > These days we are mostly working in Kubernetes. Docker only takes you part > way to the horizontal scalability promised land. > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 12:27 PM Eugen Stan <eugen.s...@netdava.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > There has been some discussion regarding Docker and OFBiz, however no > > consensus yet. > > I'm starting this thread after discussions on Slack with Jacques Le > > Roux, Daniel Watford and Michael Brohl. > > > > The the aim to establish some goals / objectives regarding Docker and > > OFBiz. > > > > Please add your feedback, comments and suggestions. > > > > Prior work regarding this is found > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-10407 > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r40fd679818a37e113b469add51755b1097a2b02d3961e71a2cfe928d%40%3Cdev.ofbiz.apache.org%3E > > > > and in the links stemming from the links above. > > > > ---- > > > > == How can we integrate Docker in OFBiz ? > > > > Docker can be used in two distinct ways: > > > > a. Use Docker as a way to build OFBiz components - this will make builds > > more portable - as long as people have Docker (or containerd or podman) > > installed locally, they will be able to build OFBiz "for sure" (tm). > > > > This aims to solve the issue of people not having the proper JDK and > > required tools installed (gradle, git ?! etc). > > > > b. Use Docker to deploy OFBiz for production purposes (and demos) > > IMO this means building a slim Docker image with only JRE and OFBiz + a > > custom selection of plugins. IMO this is best achieved with pre-built, > > published binaries for ofbiz. > > > > c. Use Docker to develop / debug OFBiz > > I'm not sure if this is really a thing since IMO falls into b). > > > > > > Using docker multi stage image builds is something that could help. > > > > The goals are sometimes at odds with one another in the sense that doing > > something to fix a goal will hinder the other. > > > > Do you see other use-cases for Docker and OFBiz? > > > > > > == My personal take > > > > Personally I would like to focus on b). I did not have good experience > > with building sources with Docker - I could not get used to the workflow. > > > > Also when I deploy to production, I don't really care how it's built as > > long as I have the binary and I can run just that. > > > > So we might end up with two or more Dockerfiles, each focusing on > > specific objectives. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Eugen Stan > > +40720 898 747 / netdava.com > > > > > -- > Ean Schuessler, Brainfood Co-Founder > e...@brainfood.com > 214-720-0700 > -- Daniel Watford
