OK, now I see,

thank you for explaining.

2009/2/5 BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>:
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> it is a combination applet/application that can be detached from a
> webpage and used Standalone.
> there is one module in it that communicates with ofbiz as you say
> client/server, but not in the traditional way. That is the one the is
> mostly updated.
> What it achieves is very loose coupling to ofbiz. It only deals with
> data presented from ofbiz webpages and Sending Data back as if a user
> did something on the ofbiz webpage.
>
> so I have a very rich UI for the user. Similar to the Eclipse UI.
>
>
> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/5/2009 11:57 AM:
>> BJ,
>> I am interested in better understand how the architecture you describe works.
>> Is this a client-server architecture?
>> I mean a java swing application running on the client that make
>> requestes to the OFBiz server?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2009/2/5 BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>:
>> I agree with David.
>> But if someone want to go to the trouble of doing the code I don't see
>> why it can't be put in the jira for someone to use if they want to.
>> Just as a heads up I use the current screens in my remote UI(java swing).
>> my app reads the screens, generates the equivalent in the UI i have, and
>> sends the changes as if a user does it.
>> This allows ofbiz to keep it dynamics, and allow my users to have a
>> intuitive UI.
>>
>> As ofbiz screens change at the browser level, then I have one module in
>> my code that gets updated.
>>
>> as far as "Remote" UI's I think they should be designed at arms length
>> to ofbiz.
>> that is what SOap is suppose to do.
>> so maybe getting Soap more robust would be one way.
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 2/4/2009 4:33 PM:
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and GWT is Apache licensed !
>>>>> That does make is easier to include... but isn't really a reason to use
>>>>> it... ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/2/4 Bruno Busco <bruno.bu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well...
>>>>>>> ...to have something similar to this in the OFBiz UI :
>>>>>>> http://opensourcestrategies.com/images/opentaps_gwt_demo.htm
>>>>> I don't know about others, but so far if OSS decides to do something in
>>>>> opentaps I take it as a good reason to NOT do the same in OFBiz. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite a few of the things in that little recording are already supported
>>>>> in the form and screen widgets (with demos in the Example app), and
>>>>> other things could certainly be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is... how does GWT compare to other options? You can
>>>>> probably find dozens of emails on this topic in the archives if you're
>>>>> interested (ie comparing them to other JavaScript/AJAX libraries like
>>>>> prototype and dojo and such).
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK no one has done an adequate comparison of these technologies for
>>>>> what we want to do in OFBiz (or what users of OFBiz want to do, more to
>>>>> the point), but IMO we have more flexibility with our current tools, and
>>>>> not requiring the translation it makes it easier to debug and do funky
>>>>> things if needed... and as for overall development efficiency... I
>>>>> dunno, but my guess is the current approach is better so unless we find
>>>>> good reasons to move to GWT or something pushes it and does neat things
>>>>> with it that make it into the project, we probably won't use it much.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/2/4 David E Jones <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems opentaps is going to use GWT.
>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't we consider using it?
>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/2/2 Jeroen van der Wal <jvander...@stromboli.it>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Harmeet,
>>>>>>>>>> Your GWT approach sounds promising. Could you share more details with
>>>>>>>>>> us on how you did it and perhaps supply some code?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jeroen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Bilgin Ibryam <bibr...@iguanait.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harmeet,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you show any demo or POC code for gwt integrated with ofbiz?
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you need to compile and deploy javascipt files in ofbiz after
>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>> change in the screens?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bilgin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2008, at 4:50 AM, Harmeet Bedi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are a few libraries that are rich with widgets in GWT that can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> applied. We started with gxt : http://extjs.com/products/gxt/. Some
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> good candidates are smartgwt ( http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/ )
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> default GWT toolkit and associated google projects have some decent
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> widgets
>>>>>>>>>>> too. (GWT is under apache license so compatible).
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very nice if Ofbiz team can consider more GWT. We could
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide code.. developer help etc. to promote this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We could start with creating a demo that you can see and see if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to evaluate this direction more. I feel GWT + HTML is a very good
>>>>>>>>>>>> choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> people writing java servers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> GWT theoretically is just a mechanism where you write java code and
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> is generated into javascript and dom manipulation, but it is much
>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Strong typing in java, debugger support makes it far more
>>>>>>>>>>>> productive
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> reliable to create rich applications.
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Due to better approach applied with GWT to rich
>>>>>>>>>>>> javascript/ajax/dhtml
>>>>>>>>>>>> applications.. one can now write much more complex user interfaces.
>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>> take a leap in rich web application capabilities. i.e. write an
>>>>>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>>>>>> webpos in gwt vs. very hard and buggy to write one entirely in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> javascript.
>>>>>>>>>>> - Can retain HTML as the frame of application and gwt widgets can
>>>>>>>>>>> contain
>>>>>>>>>>> html. GWT and ftl templates can play together. So low barrier of
>>>>>>>>>>> entry,
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple nature of web 1.0 is retained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harmeet
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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