I still think we need to remove this from the home page and embed it somewhere 
else in our enterprise - maybe on the Wiki or something like that.  It doesn't 
exactly need to be on the front page, and frankly, as I stated before, kinda 
mucks with the layout.

If there are not an excessive amount of people clamoring to have this somewhat 
fictitious information on our homepage, can we please migrate it somewhere else?

Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

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----- "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> I can't say anything about their method but
> https://www.ohloh.net/wiki/project_codebase_cost
> 
> Jacques
> 
> From: "David E Jones" <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> > It is a funny estimate isn't it. If you look at the numbers they are
>  
> > assuming full-time developers (ie about 2000 hours per year), and  
> > about 2 lines of code per hour.
> > 
> > The thing to note is that this isn't representative of what was  
> > actually required to create OFBiz, or to design it. In fact there
> have  
> > been many hundreds of thousands of lines of code that have been
> thrown  
> > away as we have removed tools from the framework, and as we have  
> > introduced new best practices and done large scale changes on the  
> > business logic that existed at the time. That was mostly true for
> the  
> > first 3 years of the project before the framework really settled
> down,  
> > but a few things have happened since then (like bsh -> groovy, and 
> 
> > some of the recent security refactorings, etc).
> > 
> > Anyway, the reality is OFBiz has been running for 8 years and on  
> > average has probably had about 6-8 people working full-time on it at
>  
> > any given time (with those 6-8 people constantly changing). The
> thing  
> > is that there aren't many contributors to OFBiz who crawl along at 2
>  
> > lines of code per hour... unless you include design time along with 
> 
> > development and for some (I know for me personally) I'll often spend
>  
> > 5-10 times as much time designing and reviewing and collaborating
> with  
> > the community about something as I do actually coding (especially  
> > recently now that many changes are so sensitive because the project
> is  
> > so big).
> > 
> > -David
> > 
> > 
> > On May 5, 2009, at 10:57 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> > 
> >> Missed the original email.
> >> but I have one reality check.
> >> 193 man years means for the the 5 yrs of the project 36.7 people
> were
> >> working on it for 3,000 hours + each year. or for say last 3 years
> 10
> >> people worked on it,  which is 30 man years that means 80 people  
> >> worked
> >> on it for the last 2 years.
> >> what do  yo think.
> >>
> >> Vikas Mayur sent the following on 5/5/2009 4:19 AM:
> >>> This is interesting, Jacques :)
> >>>
> >>> Vikas
> >>>
> >>> On May 3, 2009, at 5:07 AM, jler...@apache.org wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Author: jleroux
> >>>> Date: Sat May  2 23:02:10 2009
> >>>> New Revision: 770996
> >>>>
> >>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=770996&view=rev
> >>>> Log:
> >>>> If someone see a problem with that I will revert...
> >>>>
> >>>> Modified:
> >>>>   ofbiz/site/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html
> >>>> URL:
> >>>>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=770996&r1=770995&r2=770996&view=diff
> >>>>
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> =
> >>>> = 
> >>>> = 
> >>>>
> ====================================================================
> >>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original)
> >>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Sat May  2 23:02:10 2009
> >>>> @@ -298,7 +298,10 @@
> >>>>                <li>Demos, Nightly Builds, Nightly Demo Logs, API
> >>>> Site, and Docs Site Provided by <a
> href="http://www.contegix.com/";
> >>>> target="_blank">Contegix</a> and <a
> >>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/?atc=OFB";
> target="_blank">HotWax
> >>>> Media</a></li>
> >>>>                <li>Site Design and Matching Theme Provided by <a
> >>>> href="http://www.brainfood.com/"; target="_blank">Brainfood</a>
> and  
> >>>> <a
> >>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/?atc=OFB";
> target="_blank">HotWax
> >>>> Media</a></li>
> >>>>            </ul>
> >>>> -
> >>>> +            <h3>According to Ohloh</h3>
> >>>> +            <ul class="sidemenu">
> >>>> +                <li><script type="text/javascript"
> >>>> src="http://www.ohloh.net/p/162/widgets/project_cocomo.js";></ 
> >>>> script></li>
> >>>> +            </ul>
> >>>>        </div>
> >>>>        <!-- sidebar -->
> >>>>      </div>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> BJ Freeman
> >> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation
> >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> >>
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro
> >> Systems Integrator.
> >>
> >

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