if messages are the answer how about a simple input in the current file that says your about to load demo data, do you want to.
========================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> Raj Saini sent the following on 4/21/2010 12:16 AM: > And what is the issue in adding the new command and changing the old one > to give a meaningful help message to use the new one? How would this > break the documentation? Command is still there and user can use it and > they get on screen help to use a something new. I do not see why would > you need to fix is the existing documentation and books for this change. > > If some thing is broken and lot it written about it does not mean that > you don't fix it. This change is needed to bring the clarity to the > command as run-install does not give you a hint that it is installing > the demo data unless you read through ant help messages. > > Regards, > > Raj > > On 21/04/10 12:36, Adrian Crum wrote: >> Jacopo, >> >> You're missing the point - it's not as easy as that. The command "ant >> run-install" is mentioned in innumerable places in documentation, >> websites, books, etc. It's not just a matter of modifying a script - >> it's a matter of rewriting seven years of documentation. >> >> If it's not an issue, then why did you bring it up? >> >> -Adrian >> >> >> --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jacopo >> Cappellato<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote: >> >> >>> From: Jacopo Cappellato<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>> Subject: Re: What about renaming "run-install" to "run-install-demo"? >>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org >>> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 11:54 PM >>> The easiest way to do this would be >>> to: >>> 1) add run-install-demo (= run-install) >>> 2) run-install should simply print a message explaining >>> that now run-install-demo should be used >>> >>> But really, I am not very interested in spending more time >>> to discuss this, especially because it is not an issue I (or >>> my customers) have. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I had the same thought, thanks Raj >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> From: "Raj Saini"<rajsa...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> In my opinion run-install is misleading as it >>>>> >>> really does not tell that it is going to install demo data >>> and cause confusion to new users as it has happened with me >>> in the past. For the benefit of old and new users, I suggest >>> to add new command run-install-demo and leave the >>> run-install as it is for a while and document them to tell >>> what exactly they do. There are numerous examples of this in >>> the Linux/Unix world. >>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Raj >>>>> >>>>> On 21/04/10 09:39, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Ean Schuessler >>>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is just *your* opinion and I >>>>>>>> >>> respect it (even if comparing this to altering an api is >>> ridiculous)... but please quit with the "teacher/guru" >>> mode... >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why is it ridiculous to think of shell >>>>>>> >>> script parameters as an API? You >>> >>>>>>> would surely be surprised if "ls" became >>>>>>> >>> "rm" one day, as an extreme but >>> >>>>>>> valid example. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> As a new user of the "OFBiz Linux OS" I would >>>>>> >>> be also very surprised if the "rm" command really was a "rm >>> -r" command; in my opinion this is worth of a change, even >>> if old users would have to read one line of documentation to >>> learn the change. >>> >>>>>> But really, it is not very important, I am >>>>>> >>> more than happy to leave things as is because I understand >>> that this could be annoying for old users and frankly >>> speaking I don't have time and energy to further discuss >>> this. >>> >>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we can safely regard shell scripts >>>>>>> >>> as a class of >>> >>>>>>> program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding "run-install", we've set an >>>>>>> >>> expectation that run-install will >>> >>>>>>> give you a demo system and that could >>>>>>> >>> throw people off. Changing it >>> >>>>>>> doesn't seem hazardous but I'm not clear >>>>>>> >>> that it adds value. >>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ean Schuessler, CTO >>>>>>> e...@brainfood.com >>>>>>> 214-720-0700 x 315 >>>>>>> Brainfood, Inc. >>>>>>> http://www.brainfood.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >
