On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> Jacopo,
> 
> You're missing the point - it's not as easy as that. The command "ant 
> run-install" is mentioned in innumerable places in documentation, websites, 
> books, etc. It's not just a matter of modifying a script - it's a matter of 
> rewriting seven years of documentation.

No, we are not changing past releases; imo we will simply have to update the 
documentation of the new releases and of the trunk.

> 
> If it's not an issue, then why did you bring it up?

It is not an issue for *me*, but I know that users are often confused by the 
run-install target.

Jacopo

> 
> -Adrian
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jacopo Cappellato <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> From: Jacopo Cappellato <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: What about renaming "run-install" to "run-install-demo"?
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 11:54 PM
>> The easiest way to do this would be
>> to:
>> 1) add run-install-demo (= run-install)
>> 2) run-install should simply print a message explaining
>> that now run-install-demo should be used
>> 
>> But really, I am not very interested in spending more time
>> to discuss this, especially because it is not an issue I (or
>> my customers) have.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Jacopo
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> 
>>> I had the same thought, thanks Raj
>>> 
>>> Jacques
>>> 
>>> From: "Raj Saini" <[email protected]>
>>>> In my opinion run-install is misleading as it
>> really does not tell that it is going to install demo data
>> and cause confusion to new users as it has happened with me
>> in the past. For the benefit of old and new users, I suggest
>> to add new command run-install-demo and leave the
>> run-install as it is for a while and document them to tell
>> what exactly they do. There are numerous examples of this in
>> the Linux/Unix world.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Raj
>>>> 
>>>> On 21/04/10 09:39, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Ean Schuessler
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is just *your* opinion and I
>> respect it (even if comparing this to altering an api is
>> ridiculous)... but please quit with the "teacher/guru"
>> mode...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why is it ridiculous to think of shell
>> script parameters as an API? You
>>>>>> would surely be surprised if "ls" became
>> "rm" one day, as an extreme but
>>>>>> valid example.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> As a new user of the "OFBiz Linux OS" I would
>> be also very surprised if the "rm" command really was a "rm
>> -r" command; in my opinion this is worth of a change, even
>> if old users would have to read one line of documentation to
>> learn the change.
>>>>> But really, it is not very important, I am
>> more than happy to leave things as is because I understand
>> that this could be annoying for old users and frankly
>> speaking I don't have time and energy to further discuss
>> this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we can safely regard shell scripts
>> as a class of
>>>>>> program.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regarding "run-install", we've set an
>> expectation that run-install will
>>>>>> give you a demo system and that could
>> throw people off. Changing it
>>>>>> doesn't seem hazardous but I'm not clear
>> that it adds value.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Ean Schuessler, CTO
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> 214-720-0700 x 315
>>>>>> Brainfood, Inc.
>>>>>> http://www.brainfood.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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